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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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Default Can someone recommend a clutch that lasts?

The standard done in our Series 2 lasted about 10 days.

We put a Valeo Fast Road one in late last year and now that's starting to slip. And we haven't even properly ragged the car yet.

Any leads on one that's up to the job but is still OK for road use?

Car currently runs 201 lbf.ft (at about 3250 rpm) and 190 bhp @ 13 psi

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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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I think karl (Norris) put in an AP organic clutch with a different plate than normally supplied

i haven't heard anyone say they are a heavy clutch or even say they judder, may be worth while asking if he can supply one to you?

a mk5 pedfal and ratchet conversion would also be advisable
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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My Helix Organic job has survived me abusing it for the last 3 years. Not the nicest clutch in the world to use though
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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My ap 4 paddle is still going strong So is Alex's and his has been in there ages Have standard covers on so they drive like a normal clutch
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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Brilliant - thank you.

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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Depends on ur mileage and type of driving. A paddle shouldnt be used in a road car that does any kind of serious traffic driving, it will fail with time. Make sure u are getting the flywheel skimmed too, otherwise it's a waste of time. An organic clutch should never judder. I recommend the AP racing organic kit, that will last u for years.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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Depends on ur mileage and type of driving. A paddle shouldnt be used in a road car that does any kind of serious traffic driving, it will fail with time. Make sure u are getting the flywheel skimmed too, otherwise it's a waste of time. An organic clutch should never judder. I recommend the AP racing organic kit, that will last u for years.
When I spoke to someone before about a paddle clutch I was told that normal traffic driving will kill a paddle clutch.
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Mine has the AP organic clutch and is going well, 8000 miles in a few months at the end of last year mine is about 230bhp
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Nice one, thanks for all the tips and recommendations.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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ive a ap clutch in mine aswell seems up to the job but we will see when i turn the boost up
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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I have an Alcon 6 paddle. So far has lasted longer than both my last 2 AP 4 paddles put together and with significantly more power. 6000 miles showing minimal signs of wear.


That's that jinxed now
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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AP CP-2000 Organic...got one in mine running 200lb/ft.

Deffo the way to go for your power level!
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by David Ramsey
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Depends on ur mileage and type of driving. A paddle shouldnt be used in a road car that does any kind of serious traffic driving, it will fail with time. Make sure u are getting the flywheel skimmed too, otherwise it's a waste of time. An organic clutch should never judder. I recommend the AP racing organic kit, that will last u for years.
When I spoke to someone before about a paddle clutch I was told that normal traffic driving will kill a paddle clutch.
That someone was wise indeed
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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my AP is stil going strong, doesnt really like sittin on the biting point, jus wants to let rip and throw me up the road.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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putting a sintered tripple plate cerametalic clutch in mine



apparently its what the old group a cars use to run



i know sod all about it only that it will take all i can throw at it
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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gus


it will But might be a bit feisty too - be sure to let us know how u get on
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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what do you mean feisty?



it will be my track toy so not fussed about judder and stuff
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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What are the Alcon 6 paddle cluthches like?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Just put an AP organic in my Fiesta RST. I would love to tell you all about it but I promptly went ahead and knackered the engine this morning
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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AP 4 paddle in mine,running over 200 b.h.p.No problems at all,but would highly recommend the MK6 clutch peddle conversion as this assists what is a common problem with uprated clutches.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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My AP 4 paddle's been fine for years running big power.
The car only comes out when its sunny though so it don't get much use.

Whats this peddle conversion I keep hearing about?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Peddle conversion is using a MK6 escort clutch peddle as it is adjustable,stronger and gives a longer reach.With the force of the new clutch the standard MK4 peddle can bend and doesn,t give a longer enough reach making for clunky gear changes.This conversion combined with a new clutch cable improves the clutch feel no end.All the conversion information is on the AP RACING website.
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