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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...513174,00.html

Why didn't he just turn the key off?

Sounds a little suspect to me.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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i thought that, just bang into neutral and turn key off

or was he thinking maybe he's been caught speeding and needs an excuse
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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for fear of disabling the power steering
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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I was wondering that.
But wouldnt the steering lock come on, that would be freightening at that speed

Or just put in neutral?

But I cant see a 318 doing 140mph
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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seems v strange!
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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OK, so the article does say about his fear of disabling the Power steering. However, if you were heading for a roundabout in an accelerating car, surely you would turn the key off? At least it might stand a chance of scrubbing some of the speed off.

I would have thought that in the length of time that he claims it was uncontrollable, he would have had an opportunity to do something. Especially with the Police on the line to help him!!
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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The Steering lock wouldn't come on unless you removed the keys AFAIK.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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could of done a sensational hand brake turn
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The Steering lock wouldn't come on unless you removed the keys AFAIK.
edit - Yes thats right

However I think this is just like that lorry driver from a few years back. He had Munchhousens (sp?) desease. I would guess this blokes the same.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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sorry but i found that quite funny

'police cars couldnt keep up'
135 mph? sound like pretty shite police cars lol


so, hes just crashed at 130 odd mph into a roundabout
Rolled it and gone skidding down the road to an eventual stop

and he's said 'dont cut my car up to get me out'

i think that its fukked anyway mate
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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"I said to the firemen, 'Don't cut my car'. It's my baby.

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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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There was a movie made about this before, based on a real life incident that happened in America. What happened there was the car jammed wide open and nothing else would work, electric's and brakes etc, so she had to just steer for miles avoiding anything in her way, Police had to block highways off, move all traffic and clear those toll booth things etc. Eventually she lost control and had a high speed crash.

Anyway, I don't know how a car's electronic's work, but on a motocross bike ( and most likely any other motocycle ) when the throttle is stuck wide open the kill switch does diddly squat because theres too much rev's for the switch to over - ride and cope with, the only way of getting the engine to stop is by turning the bike up side down!

My idea is maybe with the car running so fast that turning the ignition off wouldn't do anything, or is it totally different?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Reckon he was bullshitting about peddle being stuck,just didn't want to get done for speeding.
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I just hope it gets properly investigated as if this was anything other than a freak accident, then this guy is dangerous.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Was reading it in the sun today...Prized bullshitter!
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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I could see why people would say this if this is what he said after being caught speeding, but HE phoned the police ....
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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"I was reaching 135mph. It was like being strapped to a rocket,"


Not being 'picky' but Rockets travel @ 1500mph +
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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Since when has a 318 BMW been able to over power its brakes. I mean if you pressed the brakes hard enough theres no way the engine with only 115bhp is going to over power them, it would just slow down and eventually stall the engine. Yeah they would get hot but it would stop.

I mean try it, floor your car in 5th gear and then stamp on the brakes while on full throttle, the car slows down and will stall the engine .... well it did on my on a ST170 with ALOT more power than a 318
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Since when has a 318 BMW been able to over power its brakes. I mean if you pressed the brakes hard enough theres no way the engine with only 115bhp is going to over power them, it would just slow down and eventually stall the engine. Yeah they would get hot but it would stop.

I mean try it, floor your car in 5th gear and then stamp on the brakes while on full throttle, the car slows down and will stall the engine .... well it did on my on a ST170 with ALOT more power than a 318
Cobblers!

Go do 130 then keep your right foot planted and try and slow the car using your left foot on the brakes. Might get some retardation, but heat issues will stop the brake working, well before you've got anywhere below 70 IMO. Having said that I dont think he had any real problem with the car. As I said above its a classic example of Attention seeking mental illness.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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put in neutral and press the brake.simple.who cares if the engine blows up with over reving!
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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He doesn't look like the sharpest tool in the box


Surely the police operators know that it would have been OK to switch it off?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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I agree with the attention seeker comments!

The steering wont lock unless you remove the keys either.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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He looks the type to me who would fly past you at 130 with 3 fat birds in the back and think he's a porn start with that ear ring Couldnt he of braked lOl?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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In fairness...

I believe him... i rekon he could have used his napper a bit more in order to slow/stop the car, but even if he was speeding and tried a fly one to get off with it, i dont think he would have the guts to go through with a 100mph crash?

He'd poof it and "somehow" slow down before he had to crash in my opinion?

So i rekon there was summit up, and he just didnt think properly about how to stop the motor.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Coldo
In fairness...

I believe him... i rekon he could have used his napper a bit more in order to slow/stop the car, but even if he was speeding and tried a fly one to get off with it, i dont think he would have the guts to go through with a 100mph crash?

He'd poof it and "somehow" slow down before he had to crash in my opinion?

So i rekon there was summit up, and he just didnt think properly about how to stop the motor.
I dont disagree with you there, it just seems odd. I am sure that your instincts would lead you to do something at least try and stop it. I'm not suggesting that he was trying to get off with speeding, but I do wonder if it was something else.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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I wish some people would learn to read - IT WAS AN AUTOMATIC AND HE COUDN'T GET IT INTO NEUTRAL (allegedly ).
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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if he was driving a cossie it would of gone pop long before 60 miles, maybe 6 miles at full throttle then bang, meltdown


and he looks like a prize buffoon
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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maybe it wouldn't go into neutral you ever tried pulling your car out of gear whilst on full throttle ?
but 1 turn of the key would have slowed the car down to a complete stop why would he be bothered about the power steering the a1 a straight road apart from that roundabout he hit lol!

should take his lisence off him i reckon he's a nutcase!
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Don't think he's the full shilling
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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I was travelling back North up the A1 when this had just happened, no way did he hit the roundabout at anything near 100mph, or even 70mph, he only made quarter the way around the roundabout, (would it even have made it this far...) hit a HGV and rolled onto its side demolishing the Chevron. Work it out, if he WAS doing 100mph + he would have made it under the truck and prob into the service station!!!!

Should have seen the torrent of Police T5's Range Rover, Mercedes Police cars trekking down the motorway for the next mile or so, and the Police Choppa was out.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Since when has a 318 BMW been able to over power its brakes. I mean if you pressed the brakes hard enough theres no way the engine with only 115bhp is going to over power them, it would just slow down and eventually stall the engine. Yeah they would get hot but it would stop.

I mean try it, floor your car in 5th gear and then stamp on the brakes while on full throttle, the car slows down and will stall the engine .... well it did on my on a ST170 with ALOT more power than a 318
Your ST170 the special Automatic gearbox type?

You wont stall an auto
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Very very very odd in my opinion.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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was reading that this morning, something doesnt seem right

was it a suicide mission that went tits up?
doesn't look that over good in the head does he?

he mustve been booting his car abit for the accelator to be jammed to the floor wouldnt it? with it being an auto he might have just put it down to get past some lorries

who knows?!?
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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lol, i too read this this morning and thought, hmmmmmm thats sounds a bit fishy! 130mph from a 318?

still as has been said, why didn't he just flick the igniton off. - oh yeah, cos he'll loose the power steering
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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if the power steering was disabled and he had no breaks it could of ended up worse could it not? but saying that i don't really know
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IMO anyone with a driving licence must be able to know what to do in such an instance he is without doubt very stupid or did it on purpose, he only had to turn the ignition off on click to kill the engine that is something that in my opinion every driver must /does know.
the steering would have been heavy but it wasn't as if he had to do any u turns was it!! just move left a bit to the hard shoulder.

I lorry did this a few years ago and at the end he chucked it into some barriers to stop it, he pleaded guilty in court to I forget the offence but it was basicly being a twat!!!!!!
If it is proved he was being a prat then he should have a long long road ban IMO.

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If any1 meets that bloke slap the cunt for me!
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