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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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my boss was trying to explain a new law from feb that limits everybody to a 48 week with no opt out for overtime at all which means i lose all my overtime as my overtime more than doubles my wages obviously it means i'm fooked going from 600 a week take home down to 250 take home he said he would try to find a way round it but is adament there is no way??
i don't think he was on a wind up as he is genuinly a friend of my family so i wouldn't of thought he was trying to tuck me & my brother up (he works with me too )
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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you dont have to lose out depends on how your company works m8 but i work for a company who already run a system that gets round the new rules
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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put me in the shitter to.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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i hope it does come in, i get pissed off at my work im salaried 45hrs but Im ALWAYS over my hours but get no extra cash.
however if im ever under its mentioned!!!

last week for example did 52hrs, no extra cash, expected of me and no thankyou!
gonna be havin words soon
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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would you mind telling me how even if pm as every single person in my place would jack the job in as we all work miles away so wouldn't be worth the travel i mean i travel 100 miles a day to fo to work from canvey island right over to west london so even though it's 50 miles each way it's a hard 50 miles
and my boss can't seem to see anyway out of it




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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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glad i'm paid on price work and not hours it would mess me right up
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ballin
i hope it does come in, i get pissed off at my work im salaried 45hrs but Im ALWAYS over my hours but get no extra cash.
however if im ever under its mentioned!!!

last week for example did 52hrs, no extra cash, expected of me and no thankyou!
gonna be havin words soon
im the same. Am retail manager and regulary do 55 hours plus. Opened new store 3 weeks ago and did 83 hours-no extra pay either
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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i cant be doing with more than 40hrs a week very most
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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no secret m8 the company buys hours off you, not exactly sure how it works but it is NOT classed as overtime or part of your shift and IIRC as long as you have a certain amount of time between shifts it is still legal. and its not a small company trying to dodge things either
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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I thought it was optional and if your prepared to sign a disclaimer then it shoudn't count I was asked to sign one in the job I'm in now and wouldn't sign it!

My way of thinking is, that if you cant get your work done in the allocated time, then your either over worked or under achieving
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by smartrs
glad i'm paid on price work and not hours it would mess me right up
but it would mean you could only do 48 hours a week i think no matter how your paid asi put forward going selfemployed but he was saying don't matter as i would still only get paid for what i could do in 48 hours so i could theoreticly (spl)
start work 12 midnight sunday night smash through until 12 midnight tuesday night then have wed thurs fri sat sun off as i have done a 48 hour week???
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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I thought it was an average of 48hours over a 16 week period.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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you can opt out at the moment but the new rules have put a stop to that
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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no secret m8 the company buys hours off you, not exactly sure how it works but it is NOT classed as overtime or part of your shift and IIRC as long as you have a certain amount of time between shifts it is still legal. and its not a small company trying to dodge things either
if it's not too much trouble would you mind finding out without it coming on top as my boss is really a family man not a business man so really he don't have a clue lol
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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just nicked off the eu website to see if it makes any sense

Working conditions
Working time
The Working Time Regulations, which implement the European Working Time Directive, give workers the following rights:

 A limit of an average of 48 hours per week on the hours a worker can be required to work, though individuals may choose to work longer
 Four weeks of paid leave per year
 11 consecutive hours of rest in any 24-hour period
 An in-work rest break if the working day is longer than six hours
 One day off each week; and
 A limit on the normal working hours of night workers to an average of eight hours in any 24-hour period, and an entitlement for night workers to receive regular health assessments.

These regulations do not apply to workers in air, rail, road, sea, inland waterway and lake transport, sea fishing, other work at sea - mainly the offshore oil and gas industry - and doctors in training.

There are no regulations regarding overtime or the amount of overtime an employee can do.
Individual employment contracts specify how much overtime employees work, with the rate of pay for overtime work to be decided between employer and employee.

There is no legislation governing Sunday working, provisions for this will usually be made in employment contracts. However, shop and betting workers have the right not be dismissed or suffer other detrimental action for refusing to work on Sundays in England and Wales.

Flexible working patterns are a popular choice these days as employees try to maintain a healthy work-life balance. Employers are only obliged to consider applications for flexible working from employees with children under six or disabled children under eighteen. If an employer rejects a request, they must provide a written explanation of their reasoning, and the employee can appeal against the decision.

If an employee does not meet the criteria above, they can still make an application, but the employer is under no obligation to consider it.

Examples of flexible working patterns include:

- Annualised hours – working time is organised on the basis of the number of hours to be worked over a period of a year rather than a week. Pay depends on the number of hours worked during each pay period
- Compressed hours – individuals work their total number of agreed hours but over a shorter period. For example, an employee might work his or her full number of hours over a period of four days instead of five
- Flexitime – this system gives employees choice about the hours they work, usually outside agreed core hours
- Home working – an employee may divide their time between home and office or even do all work from home. Employers must carry out a risk assessment to ensure the employee’s safety while working at home; and
- Job-sharing – this involves two part-time workers combining to do the job of one full-time worker.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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Working time directive?
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by smartrs
glad i'm paid on price work and not hours it would mess me right up
Me too mate..i never work any more than 35 hrs a week...FUCK THAT!!! I only work for myself after hours not for the company.......

Id rather get stuck in on price than toss it on hourly rates
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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but i work what hours i want some times i'm home by 11 when we start at 6 but then some times i'm out all night , sometimes we dont even go in . My boss has no say in the hours we work
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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There are no regulations regarding overtime or the amount of overtime an employee can do.
Individual employment contracts specify how much overtime employees work, with the rate of pay for overtime work to be decided between employer and employee.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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Fucking hell....48hr week..i work MAX 2 hrs a week...and then thats a fooking busy one!!!....
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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and 22 hrs a day on the fukin net pissing ppl off
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:35 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
i cant be doing with more than 40hrs a week very most
ive done 65 hrs plus on a REGULAR basis.

and not just for one week, for one week to the next for about a month

AND i only got paid for the standard 37 hrs



think urself lucky ladies

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Brommy..so true
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