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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Default W T F !!!!!has this happened to anyone else out there.

well it just goes on and on.......
bought a supposedly 52k fsh,4x4 cossie from someone i thought i could trust-so i didnt check it over properly

well it had a noise that i couldnt at first find where it was coming from.

stu suggested that it could be cam bearing,so upon checking the belt tension(as it had apparently just had a new one)i found the belt to be sooooo tight,so i slackened it a bit.noise not as bad.

then it decided to run like shit-which turned out to be a multiplug fault(thanks again stu).got that sorted out yesterday and it ran like a dream.got in it this morning to drop the little one off at nursery and in traffic at about 2mph,it just stopped,as if the cam belt had snapped
upon inspection the belt was still on so tried it a couple of times but nothing.
just got it back and found the timing looked a tooth out,so slackened off the belt to adjust it and found this on the exhaust cam.......

as i was hardly moving,im hoping it hasnt done the valves.has anyone else on here had a cam snap like that?would it take the valves?
im now presuming this is the result of the overtightened cam belt which has killed the bearing

so much for buying a supposedly low mileage 4x4 to use as a runabout
never had this much trouble with some of the shitter 2wd ones ive sold for £2500!!!
i feel a bit better now...
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Common, although its normally at the other end. Wounder.

Depends when it snapped, your on a gamble now, were teh valves open, or were they closed...? Let us know.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Nightmare mate
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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im just praying now that i can fit a cam and it will be ok-hunt is on for a cam now.

ive had god knows how many cossies and in theory this is the newest/lowest mileage one ive ever had,and had nothing but trouble.which was why i decided to keep it as my daily runner(pusher).one things for sure it will be ok in the end


good job ive got my rs500 to keep me sane-when i can find time to finish it,due to this other one

when i met my mrs i had a shitter of a g reg 4x4 that i bought for £2000,which was always breaking down-3 yrs down the line i had restored her faith in them enough to warrant having my toy(rs500) and one for daily use,of course i was taking her to work,she was late-i get moaned at........back to reliable bmw's i think for runabout

anyone got a standard exhaust cam out there?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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Sad news.

Bloody cosworths.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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gutted.........
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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What is the number off the cam? Might have 1 here
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fookin pain in the ass,but we have to keep the faith

i just wish it was somebody else's car instead of mine-but ive had a good run of reliable ones so i suppose i can live with one bad egg,that needs some help from us fordheads.

i mean,i would only be finishing off my rs500,if i didnt have to keep messing with this.
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not got it off yet,ill put the number up on here.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JAMSPORT DAN
Sad news.

Bloody cosworths.
why bloody cosworths.....bloody owners who wont keep a car healthy...or use them normal....
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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you pay peanuts, you get monkeys

hope you get it fixed and back on the road soon

in the pic, what should i be looking for? i know nothing about cossie cams?

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Originally Posted by wimwerf
Originally Posted by JAMSPORT DAN
Sad news.

Bloody cosworths.
why bloody cosworths.....bloody owners who wont keep a car healthy...or use them normal....

No worries mate.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS

in the pic, what should i be looking for? i know nothing about cossie cams?

the cam has snapped like a carrot!

If its snapped at that end I'd guess theres a very good chance of piston - valve contact
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Snapped like a Carrot...
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why bloody cosworths.....bloody owners who wont keep a car healthy...or use them normal....
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i agree in part,but i bought this car from someone who has had/got some very nice cars.he had had the cambelt done-but whoever did the job has clearly overtightened it.i hope he doesnt trust him to work on his other cars!

but the fact is they are old cars and things will let go on them,no matter how they are maintained/driven.its a known fact that they eat money-sometimes more than herion addicts!!!!!!
but we keep buying them......


anyway the numbers on the cam are;
between 3 and 4 cyl- YN0011 and LYD 2

anyone help?
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with regards to valve damage-im thinking/hoping that as it was only ticking over,once the snap happened the cam has sprung back to how it is now,which looks like all valves may be closed or slightly open

its fingers crossed time
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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[quote="fordsportjayhas anyone else on here had a cam snap like that?

Sure have, on my way from Manchester to Kent after buying my Escort Cos

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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like a carrot........
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Jay,

I have a set of cams, caps and pulleys at home if you need em.

pm me
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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just got a cam,so its going in this afternoon.


just been out in my 2wd sapph-can anyone tell me why the rev counter should suddenly only start showing half what it should?just happened whilst i was out picking up the cam-seemed to dip on tickover and now doesnt read right????what a day
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Had this happen many years ago on a 4x4, only driven about 250 miles after a Ford RS specialist had fitted a new cam belt. They eventually conceeded that overtightening had caused problem. Cost them a new engine as I had my foot down when it went.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Had a cam break on a BDA, shifted from 5th to 2nd a bit too soon... Tell-tail on Stack tacho only goes as far 11,000 Broke the cam into 5 bits and broke a web on the cam carrier.

The engine builders quote was "Do you feel lucky ?" ... I was... Got away with a new pair of cams and a cam carrier on top of the normal scheduled rebuild (new valves / springs etc).
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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gutted for u bud - i know how this feels - u spend good money and its like it hates you for it and its getting revenge for other peoples mistreatment of it
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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might try and get hold of the so-called mechanic who did the job
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Soory to read about ur bad luck mate, atleast i know im not the only one
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i think we all come across it some time or another.
its just a pisser the car i decide to keep and not sell on kicks me in the nuts on several occasions-ouch,ouch,ouch and ouch. and one for the wallet-ouch!
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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prior to me buying my esc cos the cambelt snapped at tickover, 16 bent valves was the result!!
the owner had the head fully overhauled, Ford charged him £1500 just to remove and refit the cylinder head!!
the engine builder charged £1500 to fix the head
I have all the bills here, glad I wasn't paying them!
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jay that is the first time i have ever seen a pen stuck to a cam must have been some pen pusher trying to be a meahcanic [/img][/quote]
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Camshafts snapping, fookin ell is this common then?

Or bad luck?

I had my cossie about two weeks before I found out the block was cracked! (bills are well over 1500 so far and I havnt started putting it back together yet!) So you aint that unlucky

Good luck with it tho!
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is the car running jay
was the cam ok you got off me mate
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nice one mr chadwick,,,,,the way the belt was fitted it looked like it was done by an office type,but i have been told he is a mobile mechanic-be afraid people in the manchester area!!!!

i thought it was a glue pen
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