Well well well, things seem to be progressing in politics!
Just watching Newsnight on BBC2 which is covering the recent activities of these protests.
Very promising stuff comming out now, Time for a shake up of the system & hopefully get this sorted once and for all
Very promising stuff comming out now, Time for a shake up of the system & hopefully get this sorted once and for all
Originally Posted by EIL132
Believe it when I see it 
too many double standards in this country i'm afraid. don't condone any racial hate against anybody but it has to be said when you have people with banners demanding death , then really something needs looking at
Originally Posted by bud-weis
too many double standards in this country i'm afraid. don't condone any racial hate against anybody but it has to be said when you have people with banners demanding death , then really something needs looking at 
I mean come on, who the fuck acts like that other than there?!
I'm quietly confident that blair has something on the brew, Not because he wants to, because he's seen the uproar of brits recently and is worried he might get overturned.
We needed that protest, a lot of brits talk about uniting, but never do. I've got faith in us yet
to be honest I think 99% of the population don't really give a shit about colour or creed, but people playing the race/religion card EVERYTIME they want somthing/ don't agree pisses people off
Double standards are due to people shitting themselfs about being branded a racist.
IMHO if a person is a dick he or she is so beacuse they act and talk like a dick, not becasue of the colour they are. Bout time we sorted this sorry mess of a country out and started employing some common sense again
Double standards are due to people shitting themselfs about being branded a racist.IMHO if a person is a dick he or she is so beacuse they act and talk like a dick, not becasue of the colour they are. Bout time we sorted this sorry mess of a country out and started employing some common sense again
One thing i will say is that i don't want this thread to go into another battle like the other one.
I'm just pointing out that things look like they might progress this time, i really hope this is the last big thing before things change and that everyone regardless of colour, religion, race are treated equally both ways.
So lets keep it calm & just talk about how we can be on the right track to getting back on track
I'm just pointing out that things look like they might progress this time, i really hope this is the last big thing before things change and that everyone regardless of colour, religion, race are treated equally both ways.
So lets keep it calm & just talk about how we can be on the right track to getting back on track
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Will soon see. At least somthing is being sorted though and it hasnt just gone by the way side! See that scum apoligising for wearing a suicide outfit at the demonstration? Hmm i wonder if he actually meant that? The Politicians have to been seen to be doing somthing as there was a public outcry at how the hell they got away with it!
Originally Posted by Rhys
Will soon see. At least somthing is being sorted though and it hasnt just gone by the way side! See that scum apoligising for wearing a suicide outfit at the demonstration? Hmm i wonder if he actually meant that? The Politicians have to been seen to be doing somthing as there was a public outcry at how the hell they got away with it!

The best way seems to humiliate the people responcible
Anyhow, this the first step, and a bit of progress is better than no progress
Originally Posted by Rhys
Will soon see. At least somthing is being sorted though and it hasnt just gone by the way side! See that scum apoligising for wearing a suicide outfit at the demonstration? Hmm i wonder if he actually meant that? The Politicians have to been seen to be doing somthing as there was a public outcry at how the hell they got away with it!
They're getting away with what they want, free advertising and no consequences
When will this and every country waken up to it. Stop this shit now!
Agreed summat needs to be done - them pricks that were holding up them banners / dressing up as suicide bombers should be dealt with big time just as the people in the documentery i've just watched about white power bands inciting racism & selling their cd's etc to fund the bnp.
Originally Posted by AJ
Agreed summat needs to be done - them pricks that were holding up them banners / dressing up as suicide bombers should be dealt with big time just as the people in the documentery i've just watched about white power bands inciting racism & selling their cd's etc to fund the bnp.
Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by AJ
Agreed summat needs to be done - them pricks that were holding up them banners / dressing up as suicide bombers should be dealt with big time just as the people in the documentery i've just watched about white power bands inciting racism & selling their cd's etc to fund the bnp.

I'm not racist by any means but it seems pretty hipocritical for these protestors to say that the muslim faith isn't a violent faith and then to go setting fire to embassies and calling for the beheading of anyone who doesn't believe in what they do! No doubt our government will end up bowing down and giving them what they want.
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I think ive been living in a cave for too long, I know of the protests due to that cartoon being shown or summi? but what was being discussed on newsnight?
I agree with what people have said on here about people playing the race card which annoys the shit out of me. If I call someone a wanker, it's because I think they are a wanker, not because they are black/white/brown/pink/blue/green end of! Also, too many people are affraid to express thier feelings due to upsetting other people and thier race / religion. For god sake we are brits living in britain, and starting to be dictated to by others that are invading our country! thats my piece said!
I agree with what people have said on here about people playing the race card which annoys the shit out of me. If I call someone a wanker, it's because I think they are a wanker, not because they are black/white/brown/pink/blue/green end of! Also, too many people are affraid to express thier feelings due to upsetting other people and thier race / religion. For god sake we are brits living in britain, and starting to be dictated to by others that are invading our country! thats my piece said!
Couldn't agree more jimmy boy, the racist card is pulled out far too much these days, it takes the piss when we're not even allowed to put up england flags on st.georges day!
On the Protests;
Im I being completeley ignorant of world wide politics? or is it the case that the UK appears to be the only country having major issues.
Why the UK , where are we going wrong? Yet other countrys appear not to be?
Im I being completeley ignorant of world wide politics? or is it the case that the UK appears to be the only country having major issues.
Why the UK , where are we going wrong? Yet other countrys appear not to be?
a guy up this way got 18 months in the slammer for handing out bnp leaflets,got charged for inciting racial hatred,its a sad day when legitimate residents who have a bit of pride in their country(misguided in some ways or not) are jailed for handing out leaflets,but a bunch of scum can wave their placards decrying our society and everything it stands for with no punishment,we are just turning into second class citizens in our own country,fed up of people tiptoeing around these issues for fear of upsetting these minority groups,these problems should be tackled head on before it gets out of control,mass deportations of trouble makers and religious fanatics,they can all go back to where they belong,why should we change our way of life for these people to feel welcome they are the visitors here and should be the ones that change their way of life,and if they cant conform then they have no right to be here,this deep seated religious hatred will never go away just come to scotland and listen to some of the pathetic sectarian bigots and you will realise that it is bred into society and people are raised with it passed down from father to son
Originally Posted by B8
On the Protests;
Im I being completeley ignorant of world wide politics? or is it the case that the UK appears to be the only country having major issues.
Why the UK , where are we going wrong? Yet other countrys appear not to be?
Im I being completeley ignorant of world wide politics? or is it the case that the UK appears to be the only country having major issues.
Why the UK , where are we going wrong? Yet other countrys appear not to be?
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There needs to be a big shake up, and a wake up call as to the fact that this is britain with the british way of life / religion. Not a mish mash of dozens of foreigners religions / way of life. Why do they feel they have to protest if we dont respect thier religion, when they obviously have no respect for ours at all, and it's our bloody country! I mean, if anyone should be outraged and holding protests itt should be us british in our native land! due to foriegners not respecting OUR religion!
If im starting to sound a little racist, then thats too bad cause that is my point of view and im pissed off with people not saying what they really think because they are worried they may upset someone / someone's culture / religion.
They are my thoughts wether you agree with them or not.
If im starting to sound a little racist, then thats too bad cause that is my point of view and im pissed off with people not saying what they really think because they are worried they may upset someone / someone's culture / religion.
They are my thoughts wether you agree with them or not.
Like i say jimmy boy, i cou;dnt agree more with you, if we were to go to their country we would have to respect their laws/religiond etc. whereas here, someone is allowed to roam the streets of london dressed as a suicide bomber 6 months after the london bombings and all he gets is a slapped wrist! We're too soft! He should be jailed or deported!
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Trouble is what other options are there than the BNP? if you dont think (like me) that the current government or the tories can/will sort the problem, who else is there left to support?
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
Originally Posted by Matt J
Trouble is what other options are there than the BNP? if you dont think (like me) that the current government or the tories can/will sort the problem, who else is there left to support?
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
On a funny note, that lad dressed as a suicide bomber was out on parole from prision, he'd been sent down for drug dealing !!!!
All you have to do to get parole is stay in your sell all week playing on the ps2 and watching corrie !!
As said above i wont be voting for labour or conservatives next time i'll be voting for a government that puts the intrest of our country first instead of Iraq's !
All you have to do to get parole is stay in your sell all week playing on the ps2 and watching corrie !!
As said above i wont be voting for labour or conservatives next time i'll be voting for a government that puts the intrest of our country first instead of Iraq's !
What I don't get is that the ordinaty muslims (non-extremists) keep saying that they don't condone what is being said and done.
Why don't they sort it out between themselves, apologise profusely and leave us out of it
I don't see any efforts from the muslim community to help get rid of al-qaeda, expulse the extremists back to their own country, etc... ?
The west keeps getting blamed for not understanding the real problems, the religion, etc... surely, someone who DOES understand it fully would be able to resolve the issue better, faster and with a lot less aggro for everyone else
Why don't they sort it out between themselves, apologise profusely and leave us out of it
I don't see any efforts from the muslim community to help get rid of al-qaeda, expulse the extremists back to their own country, etc... ?
The west keeps getting blamed for not understanding the real problems, the religion, etc... surely, someone who DOES understand it fully would be able to resolve the issue better, faster and with a lot less aggro for everyone else
Originally Posted by frog
What I don't get is that the ordinaty muslims (non-extremists) keep saying that they don't condone what is being said and done.
Why don't they sort it out between themselves, apologise profusely and leave us out of it
I don't see any efforts from the muslim community to help get rid of al-qaeda, expulse the extremists back to their own country, etc... ?
The west keeps getting blamed for not understanding the real problems, the religion, etc... surely, someone who DOES understand it fully would be able to resolve the issue better, faster and with a lot less aggro for everyone else

Why don't they sort it out between themselves, apologise profusely and leave us out of it
I don't see any efforts from the muslim community to help get rid of al-qaeda, expulse the extremists back to their own country, etc... ?
The west keeps getting blamed for not understanding the real problems, the religion, etc... surely, someone who DOES understand it fully would be able to resolve the issue better, faster and with a lot less aggro for everyone else
We need a middleman, if you have legal problems, you don't try and deal with it yourself, you consult a solicitor. So why not the same for whats going on now?
Nice one Frog
Not so much a middleman, but someone who is actually feeling the brunt of the extremism.
The average muslim in this country (and others) is unfairly being put in a "terrorist" bucket imo because of a small minority...
I firmly believe they should do more to help stamp out the minority for their own (and ultimately everyone's) benefit.
Moderate muslim leaders in this country talk the talk, I don't see them walk the walk
At least the extremists won't be able to say it's the west against them if the whole moderate muslim world turns against them
The average muslim in this country (and others) is unfairly being put in a "terrorist" bucket imo because of a small minority...
I firmly believe they should do more to help stamp out the minority for their own (and ultimately everyone's) benefit.
Moderate muslim leaders in this country talk the talk, I don't see them walk the walk
At least the extremists won't be able to say it's the west against them if the whole moderate muslim world turns against them
Originally Posted by Matt J
Trouble is what other options are there than the BNP? if you dont think (like me) that the current government or the tories can/will sort the problem, who else is there left to support?
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
Originally Posted by AJ
Originally Posted by Matt J
Trouble is what other options are there than the BNP? if you dont think (like me) that the current government or the tories can/will sort the problem, who else is there left to support?
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
Sorry Next thing you know, they'll be asking the frogs to go home
Originally Posted by frog
Originally Posted by AJ
Originally Posted by Matt J
Trouble is what other options are there than the BNP? if you dont think (like me) that the current government or the tories can/will sort the problem, who else is there left to support?
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
I wont just NOT vote because I dont like either of the main 2 parties, my vote will go to the party who closest represents doing something about the issues at hand, and for me thats the BNP, the NF are to hard core by far and arent taken seriously enough, The BNP are on the up and its events like this that will keep it that way.
Sorry Next thing you know, they'll be asking the frogs to go home

Agreed BNP and not a good party at all they want purly the UK to be full of "British" people etc. While that might be fine for me and u it want for a large % of population!!! Plus this country needs imigration to fill jobs and bring wealth etc. So i openly welcome genuine immigrants
Just the small few you get protesting these plaques around etc.
Trouble is it will backfire on them too as it will make more "uneducated in this area" people vote for BNP for this reason
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta...al/default.stm
Anyone who thinks the BNP are a good force in this country should watch this, I read through their Manifesto a few weeks back and I must say I agreed with over 90% of it.
But and its a very big but most of the leading members are proper facists, I mean one of the guys signs his letter "HH" or Heil Hitler ffs
and Nick Griffin is a Holocaust denier.
I think if you look under the thin skin or face its basically a National Socialist (Nazi) party and if thats your thing then fair enough, but don't try and decieve people who are rather vunerable to this mainly because of the present climate just to win votes.
Anyone who thinks the BNP are a good force in this country should watch this, I read through their Manifesto a few weeks back and I must say I agreed with over 90% of it.
But and its a very big but most of the leading members are proper facists, I mean one of the guys signs his letter "HH" or Heil Hitler ffs
and Nick Griffin is a Holocaust denier.
I think if you look under the thin skin or face its basically a National Socialist (Nazi) party and if thats your thing then fair enough, but don't try and decieve people who are rather vunerable to this mainly because of the present climate just to win votes.
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Originally Posted by Matt J
Plus this country needs imigration to fill jobs and bring wealth etc. So i openly welcome genuine immigrants
We need a more out, less in approach as far as im concerned. Sorry if that sounds narrow minded but thats how I feel.
Originally Posted by frog
The west keeps getting blamed for not understanding the real problems, the religion, etc... surely, someone who DOES understand it fully would be able to resolve the issue better, faster and with a lot less aggro for everyone else

Is Nick Griffin denying the holocaust ever happened or just questioning numbers?
It would also help if we didn't take the media so seriously. When the final solution is offered, do not take it blindly.


