St3V3_C

Alienware and Dell XPS spring to mind - what else?

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Apple.

BM08

If you dont want Apple then yes Alien ware or dell xps are the only choice

St3V3_C

And I thought alienware vs. spec was overpriced

This seems good:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/lapto...558/asus-n56vm

Struggling to find anywhere I can go in and play with it though...

CrOwSoN15

PSML @ Apple


Acer are fantastic, not a fan of their customer support though.
Asus aren't bad.

Magnum PI

Ive got a Compaq laptop, with A 15 Inch HD widesceen monitor. Got it from staples and its excellent. very reasonable cost too

Cant fault it

EDIT: Its a Compaq Presario

St3V3_C

Decent for the money:

http://www.novatech.co.uk/laptop/ran...liten1525.html

I think I'm set on the new i7 processor...

CrOwSoN15

By the way bud, what are you wanting it for? Will make a difference on what spec you need to how much you'll be paying.

BM08

That's a beast that laptop, will do pretty much anything

St3V3_C

Looking at porn mostly lol.

Needs to run my accounts software and office etc.

I know its well over spec for that, but she's just got a quad core desktop and its just so nice to use. Quick to load things, switch from one to the other etc.

v man

Surely mac book pro

But I know fuck all so don't shoot me down.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

Yay, lets pay twice as much for the same hardware you'd get in a normal laptop.

I'll let you off then.

fraser9764

iTrader: (3)

My new work laptop is a Lenovo ThinkPad, not sure on the exact model but it is intel i7, win 7 64 bit, 8gb of ram, really nice machine. Looks a bit boring though

fraser9764

iTrader: (3)

It's a t530 with all the extras, comes in at Ł1500.

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

All you need to know. Blows any Microsoft shite straight out the water. No it isn't cheap, but it's the best.

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

Wrong.

The macbook pro retina 15" vs the novatech elite, very similar specs.

The novatech has 1gig more gpu memory and 200gig larger ssd, and .4" larger screen.
The macbook has 1600mhz ram over the novatech's 1333mhz.

Yet for some reason the mac is Ł1,600 more?!? so you're paying more than double, for lower spec hardware.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

You realise the hardware is exactly the same? Or are you another sheep that can't think for yourself? The only thing different is it comes in a shiny case (which the likes of HP are copying now anyway!) and the software, which, funnily enough, you can run on a 'normal' PC.

But it's got a shiny case and that RAM must be NASA spec?!

Fast Guy

Get an Ivy Bridge I7 quad core laptop. It should be more than fast enough for anything you want. Add in a decent graphics card if you're into that side of things.

St3V3_C

Ok, so I bought the novatech 1525 with ssd. By fuck its fast lol. Its the latest i7.

Almost wish I was at home playing with it instead of being at the pub.

Only almost

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

Good choice. That is a very powerful laptop for the price.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

Good man! I just looked it up, that's a bloody good laptop for the price!

gingeRS

im consdering the novatech....wanted to find somewhere i can play with it first though

Fast Guy

It's a very similar spec to my Samsung laptop.
Download Superpi 1.5 and run it at 1m and see what time you get. Mine has done 11.388s.

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

No, because the OS loads from cold in under 60 seconds (less than half that if you use an SSD), can be left on for months on end without needing to reboot, apps load up almost instantly, and it runs Windows better than a Windows machine

You're paying for hardware yes, but you're paying for hardware matched perfectly to an Operating System; hardware that's built FOR OS, instead of generic hardware built up to (hopefully) work with a generic OS. You're also paying for ease of use, and complete integration.

I won't deny you are also paying for a name, but you pay for a name when you buy jeans, such as Levi - Levi jeans that do exactly the same thing as supermarket branded jeans that cost a 5th of the price.

Me personally, I use a MacBook Pro because 1) it's easy to use (and so much nice to use than a HP, Dell, Compaq, etc) 2) because OSX is so much nicer to use than Windows, 3) because it "just works", and 4) should I find I need to use Windows for anything (and I have a very expensive piece of audio software that runs on Windows, and don't fancy shelling out Ł600 again to use it on a Mac) I just simply boot up Windows, inside OSX, and run both OS' at the same time, faster, slicker, and more stable than a PC laptop, or desktop, runs Windows on it's own

That's what I paid for - dunno bout anyone else. And I didn't pay anywhere near Ł1600 either - bought a 10 month old one (at the time) for Ł750. Was still cheaper than buying Dell or HP tat....

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

Another sheep ? Well, there are millions of 'us' who must be then mate....and I'll take an Apple over anything else on the market every time. It's worth it for their customer service alone.

But you feel free to attempt to rip me another arsehole mate, go for your life on it

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Can't beat Apple customer service. My charger burned out, and it was well outside it's warranty. Took it into the Apple store, showed the guy, asked how old it was, to which I replied honestly, and he disappeared out the back, and came back with a brand new one - and didnt charge me a penny. What's not to like about that?

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

Whenever I've rung Apple for ANYTHING (Ipod, iMac, whatever) they are - without a doubt - the BEST people I have EVER dealt with. No-one comes close.

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Except the times they say "Sorry, it's out of stock"

Ginger Will

The SSD is that in addition to a standard hd or instead of? Just curious due to the apparent capacity difference.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

You think an OS loading in under 60seconds makes it good? My Window's based PC loads it in way under that, yet is 6 years out of date.

I'm not going to bother with you Apple sheep/fanboy's, you're too busy reading and believing every little thing Apple spoon feeds you, have fun being ripped off.

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

As opposed to what, Microsoft's greatest fan which is what you sound like, so what's the difference between you and 'us' ?

Those who live in glasshouses....

CrOwSoN15

So it's worth paying a ridiculous amount more for customer support?

Microsoft > Apple. Every single day of the week.

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

In addition or instead of

Except you just did?

And yes, I do think that's good. About 35 seconds to boot into a useable desktop, or 12 seconds if you use an SSD

(start at 23sec)

Please post a video of you cold booting your Windows machine, without SSD, to a useable desktop (ie, where you are able to open a program), as I've never seen a Windows PC boot in under 60 seconds, despite playing around with them for 10 or 12 years.

I mean, this one, overclocked to 4Ghz, 6GB of ram, and with an SSD takes longer to boot than a standard macbook with regualr clockwork hard drive

(Start at 50 sec)

I very rarely actually base my opinions on what manufacturers say about their product - I prefer to actually try them, and use them where I can, and also use widespread reviews/contributions to determine whether I think it's for me or not. For example, Apple state the Lightning adapter does NOT support the iPod out (or Video) function, but only digital audio line out. However, reports are beginning to emerge it does (at least in some cases) support iPod control and audio out.

I used PC's and Windoze for many many years before buying a Mac. I first began to toy with them about 5 years before buying one, and used one every opportunity I could to learn how they worked and see if I liked them. It was pretty apparent early on the OS was just a joy to use in comparison to Windoze, and after testing further, it was a no brainer. Haven't looked back, and wouldn't even entertain the idea of switching back

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

You can buy whatever you want - as can I, and will continue to.

Mr S1

iTrader: (2)

I believe that kinda settles it

CrOwSoN15

I shall, safe in the knowledge I'm buying a better product.

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Enjoy it

CrOwSoN15

Thank you very much!

fiend

iTrader: (1)

..until it gets a virus.

Fast Guy

Just timed my laptop - 33secs to desktop. My 2001 desktop could do it in 60secs. (No SSDs in sight)

As for virus's --http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/9355995/Apple-drops-virus-immunity-claim-for-Macs.html

Thrush - will superpi run on your mac? If so what's the result.


PS That video you posted shows 17s to boot not 12s with SSD and 39s without.