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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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anyone offay on here, konw anything to do with pc graphic cards and the such etc please???

Need a bit of advice/guidance
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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advice or guidance on what exactly?
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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well er graphics cards tbh. I wil cut it short.

I have 2 pcs.

Dell xps420 with Nvidia 8800gt card but NO HDMI output. Works great and pc really quick and has arating of 5.9

Other pc is a HPm9090a with a Nvidia 8600 gt card WITH HDMI output.

Swapped the pc over in order that i could (and have) connect my pc to the tv on the wall via 10m flat hdmi cable with the HP

Thing is, is that the 8600gt seems so slower than the 8800 gt when on the internet etc and as such the system is rated a measley 5.0

What could i replace either my dell with ie hdmi graphics card with or even the hp??

\the hp bizarrely is a beter spec ie remote control, 1tb hard drive into 2 plus a 500gb portable hard drive which has all my music on (16gb)

The dell has no remote control but has 2x465gb hard drives.

Just a bit confused as to which one to improve etc

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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If the HP is the better rig i would say that one, however, it all depends on what motherboard it has for available PCI express cards as most are today. Also, internal size of the case as alot of new graphics cards are mahooosive!! which also leads to the next question, power supply. My graphics card needs its own 500watts of power with 3 connectors!

However, the choices are limitless cards wise, its just knowning what the rig can take.
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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just wondering tbh what the best card was to have next with hdmi which i missed out of my original post tbh
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Im a big fan of the nvidia series. the GTX range is pretty hot, and they supply HDMI with plenty of ooomph for displaying on big TV's with minimal effort
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:03 PM
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i have just bought myself an ATI card and wont be buying another, would go back to Nvidia driver based card.
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Originally Posted by st3v3
i have just bought myself an ATI card and wont be buying another, would go back to Nvidia driver based card.
The ATI's are still out infront though in terms of performance
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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The ATI's are still out infront though in terms of performance
Maybe so but thier CCC software is pants.

I had drivers of 8.x come with the card, i installed them AFTER uninstalling nvidia drivers with detdriver program, then had shit loads of trouble with the drivers for the ATI card.
So after uninstalling the ATI drivers, then updating to newest drivers i finaly got it to work, but even now the refresh rate of my moitor changes almost randomly from 60mhz to 85mhz, which is controlled by the card and NOT the monitor now
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one unticked box is all it takes to sort it, deffo not worth swopping to nvidia because of it my monitor is set to 120hz and never changes and it only took me 7 seconds to sort
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Originally Posted by danneth
The ATI's are still out infront though in terms of performance
i was looking at this

ATI HD 5770

whats your thoughts?
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
one unticked box is all it takes to sort it, deffo not worth swopping to nvidia because of it my monitor is set to 120hz and never changes and it only took me 7 seconds to sort
That ticked box never stays ticked though, that seems to be my problem lol
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Originally Posted by The Sludge
i was looking at this

ATI HD 5770

whats your thoughts?

Good cards, whats the full spec of the pc you will be using it and what type of games are you playing???
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
Good cards, whats the full spec of the pc you will be using it and what type of games are you playing???
rarely play games tbh , my lad does on a weekedn tho when he comes over, but only things like

ford racing3
need for speed
f1
Colin mcrae

my HP M9090a pc is
windows7 32 bit
4gb
Intel 2 Quad Core
Q6600@2.40 ghz 2.39ghz
Nvidia 8600gt
Realtek sound card
2X500gb HD and portable 500gb hd

My Dell xps 420 is
windows7 32 bit
4gb
Intel 2 Quad Core
Q6600@2.40 ghz 2.39ghz
Nvidia 8800gt
Audigy soundblaster
2x465gb HD


The dell seems massively quicker tbh...just need hdmi card tbh

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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sludge
i was looking at this

ATI HD 5770

whats your thoughts?

yep .. i just got 1 and its bloody great ...
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Eagle
yep .. i just got 1 and its bloody great ...
mr eagle how the devil are you stranger

well on the basis of your reply i think thats my mind settled i think.

I found some brand new for Ł129.99 tonight.............
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pc specs are good enough for the card so go for it ! make sure you get the sapphire though

and that cpu is screaming to be overclocked to 3.4ghz etc !
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by danneth
pc specs are good enough for the card so go for it ! make sure you get the sapphire though

and that cpu is screaming to be overclocked to 3.4ghz etc !
danneth, how do you overclock it?? I have heard of this but doesnt it fry something inside??
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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danneth, how do you overclock it?? I have heard of this but doesnt it fry something inside??
No it doesn't if done correctly, i wouldn't want to try and tell you on here you would be alot better reading up on it and first and knowing a few of the basics http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=263753

Mine started off @ 2.6ghz and i run it now at about 3.7ghz the difference is huge and been quad core i can run or do anything i want and it doesn't even flinch ive had it up to 4ghz but with the ram ive got it just wouldn't stay stable enough ( would crash once or twice a week ) also got my ram and gfx card overclocked to ( although the picture below doesn't show that just cpu speed )





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Originally Posted by The Sludge
mr eagle how the devil are you stranger

well on the basis of your reply i think thats my mind settled i think.

I found some brand new for Ł129.99 tonight.............

i jut got this ...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=GX-163-XF

although not at that price was the only link i could find ..lol... decided the extra Ł5 it cost over the run of the mill cards was worth it .. also comes with a 3 year warrenty so even happier .. runs cooler than my old 8800 gt too ...
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by danneth
No it doesn't if done correctly, i wouldn't want to try and tell you on here you would be alot better reading up on it and first and knowing a few of the basics http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=263753

Mine started off @ 2.6ghz and i run it now at about 3.7ghz the difference is huge and been quad core i can run or do anything i want and it doesn't even flinch ive had it up to 4ghz but with the ram ive got it just wouldn't stay stable enough ( would crash once or twice a week ) also got my ram and gfx card overclocked to ( although the picture below doesn't show that just cpu speed )





cheers Danneth and Eagle

1 question though, i read it needs a 500w psu. How can i find what is already in mine??? If its less that 500w i guess it needs to be replaced?

Just grabbed this info from mine


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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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sludge, why is your cpu only running at 1.6ghz???

as for the psu take the side of the case off will say it on it

like this
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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fooked if i know lol...take it it shoudl be running more than that then...explains why its slow then i guess......cant you fix via remote lol
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deffo will be slow your a ghz down you need to do it via the bios mate, restore default settings
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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mmmm, i coudnt see a setting for that tbh...any ideas where i should be looking at all please pal?
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your looking for something similar to this on your bios screen

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i would think you might .. but get a decent branded one not a cheapy one
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cheers danneth. Just had a look and i have

main
advanced
power boot

for each of those there is an option of choosing to load up defaults but nothing like yours has. Even by choosing them all, it has not made a difference.

Would it also make any difference if i was on dual boot?

Oh and found out the psu is a measley 300w......my dell xps420 is 425w

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in the bios look for "Speedstep and C1E." make sure they are disabled

again depends on your bios but it shows it on here C1E is enabled here should be disabled


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