Yup, weirdly you really struggle to unstick the rear of my standard 1.9gti on a wet and greasy roundabout (I try quite often), this is purely down to the modern tyres.


My daughter did pipe up in the car the other day to say to my wife that I had drifted the back of the 205 on the way to school the other day...the roundabout seemed to have diesel on it so we had to go around a few times.

My old Gti on original rubber could really be steered by the throttle. The modern tyres go round corners MUCH faster but it was more fun back then.