@Caddyshack I'd really not fancy it upside-down, I've been taught that you always tig uphill, if I didn't have the spit it would be a nightmare so yeah I'm turning it as I need to get at the weld as best as possible, I'd say the biggest problem I have is that I'm improving with every weld and after a week I'm looking back on the week before's work and wishing I could do it again lol.