Thanks for the info guys ,i will try and give them a polish up, bird shit was defiantly to blame for the focus as my mate that i bought it from lives next to a fish factory and the thing was always coverd in flying rats shit but funny how its only the bumpers unless they have been repainted at some point with crap paint. the fiesta has had another front bumper fitted at some point and thats the only place that she is flaking at.