the 20 games only for xbox dont really bother me i only really play COD and fifa lol, i kow you can trade in games apperantly but only the dealers the say, i dont like the fact you have to connect your xbox to the net every day to be able to play games, if you dont you wont be able to play them, i just dont see how they cant warrant an extra 80 just for blu ray, which the PS3 had