Paul, once you've had a 2wd with a bit of power mate going to a stage 3 4x4 is just a no go bud. My car has been off the road for 3 year now as you know and I drive and old Tdi Land Rover as a daily so you'd think stage 3 would feel mental. I get in Helens car and the first 5 minutes it feels nippy then after that whenever you put your foot down you're waiting for the monster kick up the arse and the squirming back end and it just never comes. Helens car is nice for posing about in but when you want a bit play, and you cant deny you will, you will instantly think its shit and go back to happy memories of 2wd and loads of boost.