thanks Eagle i appreciate the advice,from what i can tell the shop do loads of this type of repair to customers computers ,£35 a pop but i still had problems after this was done ,something to do with a service pack so it was another £25 today ,im £60 down but its been working like new since it was done ,so im satisfied with it ,as i couldnt afford a new computer for a few months ,but the old windows folder was an issue with my memory,so cheers for the help