cheers al, that looks sweet!

tabs, for theprices of the red/yellow stuff, ill try the bigger callipers first lol

going to pick them up later for £30 and litterally 3 miles away lol so cant go wrong.

might give them the once over with the bead blaster at work and see about fitting them next weekend. as i said, i have new st170 discs already, so would be silly not to!