Originally Posted by
scottyfocus
Insurance wise i would expect the CTR to be more expensive than an st170. The rs however, for whatever reason appears to be a big drop in insurance for me.
Reason i have picked up on the astra is i know they can remapped to nearly 200bhp with a hell of a lot of torque. I think this is similar to a leon tdi? Ive heard lot of good things about these also. They are pushing 50 mpg aswell. I would assume they are cheaper to insure and tax.
Its all really puzzling and i cant make my mind up. At the moment i could probably afford an RS or Civic, and would no doubt love whichever i got. However if petrol prices were to go insane i doubt i could run one and i don't want to find myself in a situation where the car is only used to travel to work.
CTR is probably winning at the moment. How do they stand up against the RS's and ST's, even st170? Standard ofcourse. Do they have much tuning potential?
Sorry for the long replies everyone but i am appreciating the advice given. EDIT: I mean ep3 Civics not the new ones (Theyre gash)
The Type R is faster than the 170 (It's 197HP) I would say it's more of a rival to the RS with the Type S being the rival to the ST170, you would be surprised to know it is more like 150-160HP in the real world but in any case speed/power is not everything and the Focus is a fine car!
The RS will have more tuning potential and has more power as standard than the Type R.
Have you considered the MK2 ST (225)? This has more power than all the above and good tuning potential and a gorgeous sounding, torquey 5 cylinder Volvo engine!
Martin