Yeah,that's true to a point,but these countries have a far stricter immigration policy than we do or ever have for that matter.

For example,I've been seriously looking at Canada.I'm an industrial spark so I'm on "the list",passed the entry test with nigh on top marks,own my own home etc etc.

I'm in a good position to apply for permanent residency but if I fancy a twp, it comes to getting a job,there's certain conditions:

It MUST have been advertised across Canada for at least 3 months.

It MUST meet the average wage for that type of job in that state.

It MUST be approved by the canadian labour board.

Then,and only then can you apply for it and of course if it was anything decent it would probably be gone by now!!!

Last time I looked Ontario was at $29 per hour average wage so you can't really fiddle it as it's good pay anyway,so nigh on impossible to bring in cheap labour from other countries like we did,polish sparks working for £6 per hour etc.

Granted,it's not only immigration it's a million other things but I can't agree with anyone who believes that manufacturing isn't dead in Britain is very much mistaken,it's all gone bar one factory where I live and that genuinely is it for ok paid jobs.

Blame governments of course,but we need to blame ourselves as well,DVD players for £10,LCD tv's for £200,cd's for £7,their not made in Britain for that price are they?I remember our boss in ford telling us in 1995 that one day Toyota would overtake ford as the second largest car manufacturer behind gm,but that this would not happen in our generatiothat've also explained that of course gm could never go bust due to us intervention,ok!!!

When we last got taken over,we were told we were in direct competition with china,eastern Europe and south America.they point blank told us,quality was not an issue when they could get it produced at a 10th of the price.

Be honest,if you buy a new car and the gearbox fails in 9 months,as long as it's replaced for free,your car comes back in one piece,your courtesy car is ok and the jobs done well,do you give a fuck?not really.same when your wank £10 DVD player goes pop,it's only £10 for a new one.

It's a sad situation were in but it's largely due to our own making so therefore it's up to us to make it good again,it won't be easy but it will be worth it.