Originally Posted by warrenpenalver

the youths who were violent i do hope are NOT the future of this country as they are scum.

for the rest of them, NOTHING has changed in terms of being able to start uni. NO money is wanted upfront. Its still ALL on loans. Its NO more difficult to get a higher education as a result of the fee increase.

Just means the nancy boys and fags doing media studies or going to uni for a social life will have to seriously consider if its worth the debt!!

wont effect poor kids at all any different to rest of us. If after uni they fail to break free from their working class background and end up in a low wage job then they wont pay anything back. simple. If they succeed then it is only right they should pay what they owe.


Simple fact is there are many more graduates than graduate jobs and its been that way long before the recession. That situation is not sustainable. Ditch the easy degrees, raise the entry standards and limit places to actual projected demand.

Yes that means thousands of teenagers will fail in their dream of going to uni, but tough fucking shit. not every one gets to be an astronaut, and not everyone should go to uni either, and certainly not at taxpayers expense.

Oh and ditch the softly softly "nobody fails" attitude in the education system. you cannot tell a kid he has failed at something as you have to say positives. Now im all for constructive criticism and reward for effort etc but the reality of the job world is people will fail and do badly and there are consequences for doing so. So mummy coddling them in school with an attitude that everything is positive is just plain wrong and inappropriate its misleading the kids and they will have even more of shock when they enter adult life.

The irony is these violent students are supposedly educated intelligent people and should take the moral highground and not be violent, but thier actions are more what i would expect of millwall supporters or the BNP lot.