Originally Posted by
gaz s1
this is just the start the tories are back in power screwing the poor, what do you expect, people are angry at tax dodging millionaires and banks fucking everyones lives up and the poorest paying the penalties,
fair play to them protesting i say we moan that the french stand up to their government and we do nothing, then when we do people moan, its bound to turn nasty im afraid and its only going to get worse when the north blows as its them getting screwed yet again!! and before people say its all labours fault did labour run usa spain portugal ireland etc, no its the banks thats the common denominator in this global fuck up and they are just carrying on as normal with big bonuses etc!!
Does anyone really believe this financial fuck up would have been any different if cameron and that cunt osbourne would have been in charge?, the tories have never sucked up to bankers have they!!
Mate, change the record, seriously.
I think there's a lot of ignorance at work here. If you honestly think that the majority of those violent protesters are actually students, then you must be on another planet. The vast majority are clearly just trouble making thugs out to cause a riot while the going is good. Of course there will be a rough element of students involved, but I would bet that half the ones smashing the place up wouldn't even know what the protest is about.
There are a lot of issues with this whole debate. Firstly, why is it acceptable for tuition fees to triple in one hit? When they've already tripled in the last 5 years as it is. Also, why is it acceptable, and how is there any justification for English students to have to pay up to £9k per year to study, when the Scottish government are still dishing it out for free, and the Welsh government have elected to continue to subsidise their students? Put yourself in the shoes of the students then and see how you feel. Hardly a fair system is it?
There is clearly a big problem in higher education, and I do think that far too many people are going to university and getting a completely useless degree. We seem to have armies of psychologists and sociologists, journalists, computer games designers, archaeologists, none of which will ever get a job in their chosen field. It's time that places were limited on these courses to cover demand, not to allow people to waste three years of their life and thousands of pounds of tax payer money.
HOWEVER, university is still vitally important to this country. It does bring a lot of money in from foreign students, and from graduates putting work/money back into the economy once they graduate. We need students to become the next doctors/nurses/engineers/solicitors etc, we just need to be a lot more stringent on who goes to university, rather than trying to encourage everyone to go.
A shake up is required much lower down the system, so that people are encouraged to go into vocational careers, as well as higher education. When I was at school, roles as a mechanic, plumber, electrician etc were all viewed as being jobs for "thick" people, and that you should go to university instead, which is all wrong.
But, I have no problem with tax payers paying for further and higher education. We should be investing in the future of our country, and I for one am happy to contribute towards the education of those who might be looking after me in hospital one day, or designing things to make our lives better, or save the environment. Better that than paying for a load of skanks to have 10 kids each and Sky TV like we do at the moment.