Originally Posted by
cossiejay
read what i put i said MOST not all i have not tarred you all MOST MEANS MOST NOT ALL ,not a easy life sitting in a class in the warm while getting loans and grants while i have to drag my self into a stone quarry in all weathers and cut yards of stone to support my family,and how many do pay there loans back
I did read what you said. You said
most students. That's quite clearly inaccurate in my experience and, seeing as I am a student, and am at a university at least five days a week, I would say I'm in a better position to judge than someone who isn't a student.
You make it sound like we have such an easy life and don't do anything at all? We do have assignments and exams. We may get very little contact time per week, but we're expected to study outside that contact time. When you do four modules per semester (or five this time in my case), that adds up to more hours than the average full time job, trust me. Some people are lucky enough to be able to get by without that, others aren't.
I like the way you make out you've got it hard by having to go to work every day by comparison. Ok, there are downsides, as with both sides. You may go and work in a quarry to support your family, but I'm sure no one has forced you to do that job; you could always apply for others and work in a nice warm office? And for the hardship of doing your job, you get given money for it, which means you can buy things for your family, maybe go on holiday, have a decent car perhaps. I don't get to do any of those things.
I absolutely think there are too many pointless degrees out there, and there should be more incentive for people to learn a trade. We have far too many people with degrees in sociology/psychology/media/film etc etc etc, but without the higher education system, and us all having
"a easy life sitting in a class in the warm while getting loans and grants", where would the next generation of engineers, designers, lawyers, doctors, nurses all come from? Abroad, that's where. Just like a load of plumbers, electricians and the like have come over in recent years.
I agree the balance is wrong in education, but the thought that most of us are lazy sponging c*nts is the biggest load of toss going. That arguement went out of the window when grants were scrapped. When I finish here I'll be in over £20k worth of debt, before I've even thought about buying a house. And if I'm lucky enough to get a decent job, I could well end up paying a high rate of income tax as well. What a sponger I am