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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by neilm
My 190bhp Zetec is on a pair of 45's, why do I want to spend £1000-1500 more to put it on injection ?



Pauluspaolo

There are several ways you can go with carb set ups and management.

lets start with the absolute billy basic rock bottom budget install.

You can run a Weber 32/36 Twin Choke Down Draught Carb using an old Ford Crossflow manifold and an adaptor plate from the Banger boys, see e-bay for details.

Basically in Mondeo Bangers you cant run injection, you have to run a carb, so the banger racers have come up with various methods of adapting carbs onto their Zetec and the adaptor plate and Crossflow GT inlet works pretty well.

You can also get an adaptor plate which will adapt a CVH inlet manifold to the Zetec and you can use an XR2 inlet, but you have to do some mods to the inlet to take a weber car.

This works well and a good friend of mine had his Anglia van on the roller at Northampton Motorsport and his scrap yard RS1800 engine made a very respectable 138bhp with a stonking flat torque curve making 100lb/ft at 2500rpm, peaking at 125lb/ft and then at the limiter was still making over 100lb/ft of torque.





BUT taking that thought further, you can use a down draught inlet from an XR2 to run a pair of DCNF Carbs and I have seen a car which will hit the classic ford scene later this year with that very set up on it.


Then you get to ignition, you can do a proper budget thing, which again is done on the bangers and use an ESC (Electronic Spark Control) module from a MkIII Fiesta, looks like an EDIS Module but its not, its basically a distributor in a box, so it has a fairly fixed advance curve. If you use this you MUST connect the water temp sensor as it does alter the ignition when the engine is cold.

The next step form that is to use a MegaJolt Ignition Only ECU

And then from there use something like an OMEX200 or a Weber Alpha Ignition Only set up.

All will work.


Dont waste your time with standard Management and ECU, if you start with a 130bhp engine thats what you'll end up with. Sticking carbs on will give you more power straight out the box.

Infact the single twin choke made more power than the factory set up and it still does around 35 to the gallon on a run.
I seem to have opened something of a can of worms with just about my 1st post - oh dear this wasn't my intention at all !

I'd like to keep the car on carb(s) if possible as I'd like to keep it looking period i.e. as if it was put together by Reliant in 1985. As it's probably only going to be run as a second car then economy isn't that much of a concern. I'd like to keep costs down if possible - a set of Jenvey throttle bodies with an Omex ecu would be fantastic but they'd end up costing more (lots more) than the car did to buy! I already have the manifold/carb that came off the original CVH - so if I can use that then so much the better !

I've experimented with the inlet manifold that came off the donor Mondeo & that doesn't fit due to the steering column getting in the way. Similarly I bought an injection manifold - basically a tubular plenum chamber with the Mondeo throttle body mounted at the end of it pointing forwards. This was originally fitted to a Ginetta G20 (using an 1800 Zetec) & this won't fit either because there's not enough room between the engine & inner wing I've also bought an appallingly bad hybrid Zetec/CVH inlet manifold off ebay. Someone has cut the flange off a Zetec inlet manifold & welded it to a CVH carb manifold - the ports don't line up at all & the welding's poor as well; I doubt that the thing could be used realistically as the flow of air/fuel must be atrocious. As useable manifold it's pretty much useless really & is destined for the skip one day. However it does fit the engine with space to spare so it's been useful for that if nothing else!

The Anglia looks absolutely superb (it certainly doesn't look shonky!) & is the sort of look I'm aiming for under the bonnet of the SS1. It's nice to know that twin DCNF's will also work well & they'd make a decent upgrade for the future. If you've got any more info about either the twin DCNF installation or the Anglia then I'm all ears

Many thanks indeed

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