Originally Posted by SECS
Azrael, The problems your "friend" is experiencing are down to
mapping and nothing else.
I have responded to all emails and questions from him and step by step
he is sorting out the problems with his map.
I know I know, that is what I always said - but it is the reason of my question to Stu if mapping different ECUs is very different. The same people build group H engines for Hill-climbing and group A rally engines no problems - so it must be due to some particular difference with working with Motec/GEMS and S8 ECU or some strange failure of this car. Will be looking into that in future.
ECU's
ARE complicated products and the S8 is much simplified when compared
with others but still require a level of skill, understanding and experience
when setting them up.
It is unfair of you to blame me for "others" inability to understand how to map
and configure an ecu or failure to understand how engines actually work.
Simon - you tend to take things very personal. I don't blame you of anything and still think S8 ECU is the way to go in future.
If it was that easy Stu and other tuners would be out of a job.
At the end of the day, no matter who's ecu you use or no matter how much it
costs, it will ONLY be as good as the person tuning it and also how much
time and effort someone is prepared to put in to it.
Most people only think about the full load power mapping but there
are many other parameters needed for example cold start etc...
You know - I ain't as stupid as I may seam to you ...
For your info, the S8 EEC4 plug and play version is actually nearly ready for sale.
Don't treat it as personal attact or anything like that. But it has been almost ready since I first found passionford - so it's already some time. When we wre corresponding during sammer you were speaking about it becoming avalible to the publick in Autumn I think.
It is not available yet due to it being tested in the real world at present
by a WELL KNOWN respected tuning company.
Once they and I am happy with its performance it will be sold - not until then.
I personally will wait for seeing many happy customers useing it
When Idecide to get one I probbaly just drive to Stu's or somebody with lots of Cossie experience.
It is a shame that not everyone understands the amount of work that actually goes
into a product like these in terms of development.
It is
NOT a five minute job.
I do understand what R&D and testing is. You are great at what your doing from what I hear but I get impression from time to time you treat everybody like they were stupoid and unable to understand what your going through and try to make the impression like you weredesigning spece shuttle on your own
More
and sense of humore please!