and as a final thought...it amazes me that theres people on here that are perfectly capable of building engines, converting cars to rWD , welding , painting etc.. i.e good engineers that then get the hump when i say 120 quid for two pipes is steap? make the bloody pipes yourself or pay the fine, PERSONALLY i value my capabilties slightly higher than valuing two pipes at 120 quid. and for the record, i bought 4 of the same pipes for £10 of ebay last week lol