Originally Posted by
rstel1
type r's are an awesome car out of the box, i work for honda and i have a series 2 running 180-190 bhp (genuine bhp not a chip and exhaust) and i will pull away in a straight line but if there a corners involed i have no chance. its not all about straight line speed its about the whole package,
i love my fords but a type r is better than a series 2 in EVERY way apart from looks of course 
Because, lets face it, who buys a car on looks!
i do agree with you, my turbo cant handle for shit, and i've spent alot of money to get it... not alot better

but thats a odd / daft statement surely!