would love to post a pic but photobucket wont let me, theres actually 2 people that use this username chap, im not 11 stone by the way, wasnt belitting and never called anyone an ethiopian, my point was 18months training and from wat i see very poor results ,shape wise not weight wise as hes put on 3st, but i can train for a month and get ripped ,iv done ittime and time again, like said i threw in sum advice aswell and said hed done well to put the 3 st on as most people couldnt do that including myself !!! but i think u should post a pic as u give some great advice as iv seen over the last few months ????