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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by markk
towing a car trailer and a car with another car like the peugeot is illegal, your way over gross train weight,
Bolloks. if his car weighs 1500, then acording to the rule he can legally tow a trailer weighing say 1450. As it weighs less than the car, and the two together are under 3500.
It may be stupid, cos my landy which is safe to pull a 3.5 ton trailer, with my licence, under the same rules as him i can only tow 1200. bloody stupid but thats what the rules state.
(id recommend that he weighs the 406 etc tho just to be sure and get a printed ticket of proof)

Originally Posted by markk
and its totally unsafe as you dont have the braking force or the weight to stop yourself and the car on the trailer.
err... thats why trailers over 750 kg legally need to have brakes. the ones on my ifor are so good u can even feel them slow the landy down!!

Originally Posted by markk
the police dont really give a toss, or know the law regarding construction and use, its the ministry who WILL rape you, a friend of mine 150kgs over the GTW, £2k fine and had to have the lot recovered away, not allowed to drive it.

Having spent many year on commercials having to know about train weights and MAM's was critical, hence having a LGV licence resolved any issues for me.
True the police may not look on diy trailers kindly, especially as there as they are not plated. but again as long as u know that ur weights are correct and its brakes. theres nothing they can do.

In my opinion its wont be long before they introduce an MOT style test for trailers, like they have in holland and belgium. Would certainly take some unsafe shite of the roads.

Originally Posted by markk
If that DVLA have told you tat you can tow a trailer if you passed after 1997, then why did they introduce a trailer test and for whom ?
Car licences held before 1 January 1997

All drivers who passed a car test before 1 January 1997 retain their existing entitlement to tow trailers until their licence expires. This means they are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM. They also have entitlement to drive a minibus with a trailer over 750kgs MAM.
Drivers who hold subcategory C1+E - limited to 8.25 tonnes MAM, may apply for provisional entitlement to the new subcategory C1+E, in order to take and pass the test which will increase their combined vehicle and trailer entitlement to 12 tonnes MAM. It is not necessary to gain subcategory C1 entitlement first but drivers have to meet higher medical standards, and pass both the category C theory test and the subcategory C1+E practical test.

Basically to stop a 17 year old from driving a 8.25 ton minibus/truck. and to stop me pulling a 3.5 ton trailer behind my landy which would then weigh in at 5.8 tons. (of course ive never done anything like that before)

Last edited by Lee Ivatt; Aug 14, 2008 at 07:22 AM.
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