For anyone and STU in particular I said with all the other bits meaning other mods, granted IF you already have a CL capable ecu it's not too bad a price, unless you want ALL the capabilites of a ecu ie coilpack as well, it just does not make economical sense.
But this topic is ONLY about closed loop mate. Not coilpacks, televisions, sweetcorn or sex with ladies of the night.
Still, lets humour you shall we and add WS on. So we are now at £780, job done. Your cosworth is now closed loop, with wasted spark. Fully up to date. total cost = £780inc parts and vat. So again, lets see this done cheaper using your aftermarket all singing all dancing ECU. I look forward to your costings...
Depedning on your driving style it will take a long time to recoup costs,
What have costs got to do with it? Closed loop isnt just about fuel economy, its also largely about hugely decreased engine wear as well. That said, going form 18 to 33mpg will save you a LOT of money if you do 12000 miles per annum. Anyone want to work it out?
and msd mapping is extortion IMO
Really. Which mapping? What ECU type? Why is it extortionate. What are you basing that statement on?
Why do people bang on about economy when they buy a cossie, buy a diesel, can be much faster and economical.
As above. Although that said, lets get this right;
You are saying that if presented with two identical cossies for sale, but one is advertised that it does 33mpg and teh other one does only 15, both give the same performance but the one only doing 15mpg is wearing out far faster and using more oil too,
(not to mention the black smoke and stains all over the nice white bumper) that you would purchase either of them because you dont care about the extra fuel being wasted in the sump and out of the exhaust, teh extra oil costs and the extra engine wear costs yes?
It wouldnt bother you in teh slightest and you would be happy to drive either? Sorry, but i suggest you are talking rubbish, or stupid.
Msd are not a infalible entity they make mistakes as everyone else.
Agreed. Who suggested otherwise on this topic though?
This is seeming like some sort of anti MSD crusade by you, especially after i quickly look at your profile and find
this from you about me too which is TOTALLY off topic on some poor sods thread.
For me I just can't see the point of paying loads of money to upgrade a ecu that still lacks loads of features, and does not do much at all compared with aftermarket.
But what it does do, it does better mate. Far better in most cases. have you actually tried some of these cheap ECU's mate? A lot of them are a joke when it comes to refinement, and some of teh cheaper onees dont even have idle control.
Watch the news stu ecu's can now be bought for £350, as advertised in either fast ford or performance ford(can't remember which), granted a basic one, well sort of still does all the modded std ones do though.
tabetha
Sorry? Watch the news? £350? What are you talking about man?
If tha odd statement is somewhow in relation to my question to you, which was
"Show me it done cheaper" well i was at £380 DONE. Drive away. Finished.
You are still at £350 for some shonky ecu (Whos name you cant remember) in a magazine which you havent bought, paid for shipping, mapping, looms, sensor changes, sensors. Blimey... surely you can find a better reply than that one as it simply makes you look as though your clutching at straws.
