Well thats confused me further

Thanks for input Jtech, does help.

Ginge - I have actually bought that run around so I dont have to do the commute to work in it, I just dont want to have a Cossie and think 'its too juicy to take here or there etc...'

So its not nesscarily doing short journeys.

Great thread btw, think Iam swaying towards Closed Loop again now.