i have started using some stuff fro the US called 'core strength' all the usual cocktails, power and pills that maximuscle advertise... bought expecting the same results as the maxi stuff i used for months.. but too much delight this stuff seem's to work rather well. and because my day is very hectic i dont always get to eat the 'right stuff' this keeps my diet in-line! i'd recommend and give anyone more details if they would like to know more.. be warned not cheap.. but no worse than max