Rich, my point was if it was a "sold as seen" auction hence like you say "tuff shit", as the customer is not offering a warranty with the laptop hence thats "sold as seen" also
Also
It might be unfortunate, but certainly not legally wrong. Karl cannot be found guilty of owing any money, as he has offered a solution to the situation that should satisfy both parties, and not inconvenience anybody
unfortunately it doesnt "satisfy both parties" (as the seller said no) and may "inconvenience" the seller hence the solution is not satisfactory.
The only way I can see this not being the case is if the seller clearly specified that he would only accept postal order payment and specified that he wanted no contact.
at the bottom of the auction it states the sellers requirements where he can choose to state "COD" cash on delivery, the seller appears not to have done this and it sounds as if the only options he has clearly stated are "postage". As said i totally agree on a moral point, however from ebay's point if there is ANYTHING you are unsure about you ask BEFORE bidding, once the bidding ends with you as a winner you are legally obliged to pay up whether you like it or not. Its the nature of the beast unfortunately. I won a set of BMW trims recently and only after I won did I find out they are titanium in colour and not matt chrome which I was after (didnt realise they did titanium). If I asked to go and see them and decided they were not the correct colour that I was after and the sellers "silver" was misinterpreted, thats tough shit, I should have asked this before winning and so I had to pay
such is life, I agreed to these terms and will follow them through hence why I have 100% fb with 179 total.
The point I mentioned in the other post about the £8 postage cost I tried to catch the seller out by looking at this page
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policie...-shipping.html
however as it clearly states
"The seller is responsible for determining the shipping and handling charges on listings, and eBay encourages sellers to clearly describe the item and terms of shipping and delivery in their listings to avoid possible confusion. Before bidding on an auction or buying in a fixed-price listing, bidders/buyers should contact the seller about any questions they might still have that are not directly answered in the item's description."
It sounds in karls auction the seller did clearly state he would ONLY accept postage (as COD was not an option) and karl did -not- contact the seller to ask this before bidding as encouraged above
it also states
"When a bid is placed, the bidder is entering into an agreement with the seller to purchase the item, which most often means incurring shipping charges that may also include handling fees."
says it all unfortunatly. I
dont think Karl should pay up though as it sounds a little dodgy, merely pointing out that the rules say he should.