but i am saying what if i take that bolt out iswell so there is no bolt or m8 locknut. Coz if you can remember your new pedal then you may have seen the exsisting welded on nut, surely that is a wide as the m8 locknut and could do the job the same???? if you dont know what i mean then look at the thread i put up in the escort thread, someone put pics of the pedal up. Then you will see the black welded on nut at the bottom of the allen key bolt. I hope you know what i am on about, its still early in the morning for me soz