i was just goin on the fact that people who ride bikes are just as likely to fuck up as car drivers,and both machines are also liable to break at some point! if you select a wrong gear,or you havent changed your rear tyre (s) recently or youre just crap,then you could lose regardless! ive seen a 17 second ford ka beat a stupid power supra up the strip cos the guy in the supra fucked up!