i_parker

im in the process of building my escort 1.8 escort zetec turbo, basicly the spec is erst turbo t3 and manifold, decompression plate, 2 st170 head gaskets, standard inlet ( got to get frst rail and injectors ) OFAB ecu and loom, my question s amongst others is do I need to put lamda in the down pipe if so can I re use the escort 1.8 one

Ben26

No, as the OFAB will not need one

i_parker

Thanks mate

Mk4 Rick

How do you get away with the emmisions on the ofab set up with having a later car that's surposed to have a lambda and cat?

SBT83

Tell them it's pre cat engined. Is it j reg? September 92??

i_parker

good question hadn't thought of this, no it's a 95 on an m plate

SBT83

I'm sure it's September 92 when the law changed to have a cat. So pre 92 engine won't need checking.

i_parker

ye you are right mate, I only know this as me dad had mk5 rs2000 and got a de-cat fitted with his stainless and mot's said it was fine, I was going to get some sort of cat fitted just for mot,s but abvoisley the question has risen again then would I need a lambda sensor

SBT83

Do you know what year the engine is?

Mk4 Rick

I wouldn't get away with fitting the ofab set up on the mk4 fiesta would I ?Then what makes me wonder is ive seen ka turbos on here with ofab set up lol

SBT83

I had a decat and no lamba on my 2.0 cabby. Told em it was pre cat registered engine. They changed the emission test and it passed straight away.

i_parker

What year was that on if you don't mind me asking, plus MOT laws have changed again I think

SBT83

Car was M reg 95.

i_parker

Sure. shorely it'd be different now i'v turbo'd it

i_parker

or was your 2.0 cabby turbo aswel

SBT83

No N/A 2.0. That shouldn't matter. The pre cat emissions are a higher percent carbon rate. Asking as it falls within that band it's fine. Think about every car pre 92 had to go by the same test, 1.0 - 3.0+. So I wouldn't worry bout it too much.

i_parker

Thank god for that lol thanks mate for your help, im going to try an find the year of the engine if I can, would you no how to find this

SBT83

There was a way that a car dealer showed me when I setup. It's to do with the little clock looking imprints. I'm sure you will have seen them on a part or 2. To get a rough Idea go on if its a silvertop or blacktop. That will narrow down to pre or post 2000 roughly

Ben26

They always go with whats older. Car or the engine. In your case the engine so it has to be below 3.5 ppm i believe. But im no MOT tester

SBT83

You may get a dodgy tester, not that I condone that sort of thing

Mk4 Rick

Ive got no chance on my mk4 fiesta then lol ive got a 2litre blacktop in mine lol

SBT83

Doesn't matter. You could have changed the rocker cover. The blacktop is more likely to be easier on emissions as its slightly newer. Font quote me but in theory the newer and lesser wear should do you a favour

i_parker

Mines the silver top it's the same engine that's stayed with the car' bit worried now

SBT83

Be fine mate! Just tell em it's pre cat engine. They'll put it on accordingly

i_parker

sweet im happy with that, so no need to worry about cat then, what if they start saying " ye mate but it's after a j reg "

SBT83

Your engines not though is it don't have to fit a cat to it so that's that :Ł

i_parker

Sorry mate what do you mean ?

SBT83

Your engines not after 92 is it?!!! Wink wink

i_parker

sorry mate, LOL, just read that first bit again after putting "what do you mean" lol makes perfect sense LOL, sorry, having abit of a girl moment there lol, well im hoping it'll be ok as it'll make my life easier to just to get escort rs turbo stainless downpipe and just modifiy it to fit my mk5 rs2000 mongoose that already has de-cat fited to it, stole it off me dad lol not that he cared bless him

SBT83

Top bloke!! When mines built and I get a little puma to stick it in, ill be making my own stainless exhaust. I'm not too handy with a mig but my dad used to weld manifolds for different race event teams so he can weld shit hot lol. Get a few tips off him.

i_parker

do you fancy doing 2 instead LOL

SBT83

Lol see how one turns out first. Amateur springs to mind

i_parker

at least your giving it ago, I,d proberly weld spatters every where lol

SBT83

Yeah it's all about having a crack at it! Just jump in the deep end I say

i_parker

are you building a zetec turbo, if so what ecu and inlet you useing

SBT83

Yep, rover turbo inlet with cossie tb, area six ex mani.
Gonna go megasquirt to save money in the long run

i_parker

mines a baby compared to yours, with out sounding a tight sod lol, when I looked into doing this I saw a lot of people saying how cheap they built a budget build, well im sort of on the mission to get it as cheaper than them but as long as its got proper ford items new in same cases coz want it done properly lol, I take it you,l be sending it off to get wired up

SBT83

Nope do it myself. Easy. Done it loads

i_parker

Christ your joking lol, im having trouble how to wire up the ofab loom o my 1.8 loom, no one can give me a straight answer lol

SBT83

It's easier to see it in the flesh and have some time with it