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Old 29-06-2016, 04:40 PM
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I do like this latest modifications
Old 29-06-2016, 07:33 PM
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Thanks paul
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Can I ask, before you cut the bonnet, did you use a drill to make a pilot hole, and then use a jigsaw ?

Plus have you run the car yet, and if so can you feel the heat coming out of the new venting area, cheers
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Yes I drilled both corners. He heat at standstill floods out but I'm going to do a video of tuft test soon.
Old 02-07-2016, 12:47 PM
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That's good, as I've been looking at having my exhaust manifold coated by Zircotec, but can't work out if I could have the heat shield mounts ground off smooth enough, so this idea may work better for me Cheers Steve
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Good luck at Combe mate.
Shame I'm away riding
Next year fingers crossed
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Old 07-07-2016, 04:20 PM
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Cheers rog.

The bonnet vent didn't work out too well when I done string tuft test. No matter what I tried it was sucking air in not out. So it's been replaced with a new bonnet.
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Interesting Steve, do you think an intake under the front of the car directed upwards towards the manifold would push the air out of the top?
Old 07-07-2016, 05:11 PM
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Really it needs to be fully ducted from rad exit to bonnet.
Old 27-12-2016, 10:27 PM
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so iv had months of doing nothing on the car now its back to fitting new mods for 2017.

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Hi
A couple of months ago I also purchased some gsxr 750 throttle bodies with the intention of fitting them to a standard 2.0 zetec so will be very interested in your experience getting them to work

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Old 28-12-2016, 05:44 PM
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Hello Underdog! Im rather new to this site, but I have been a long time thread stalker on here.

I got an st 170 last year as a track car, and you have greatly inspired me. I find your workmanship and skills highly interesting, educational and very inspiring.

I have read through your build thread a good few times and watched all your video's.

Just wanted to say thank you for posting all your content for poor and amatuer diyers such as myself with less knowledge and skill :P.

Also I am very glad you are still modifying your 170 and I cant wait to see how your throttle body route goes

Keep on underdoggin!!
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Old 29-12-2016, 03:29 PM
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Interesting update Steve (it popped up on my YouTube feed this morning), I will take note on how this update goes especially the noise it makes
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Old 30-12-2016, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by The Black Count
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A couple of months ago I also purchased some gsxr 750 throttle bodies with the intention of fitting them to a standard 2.0 zetec so will be very interested in your experience getting them to work

Cheers
i will keep things updated. thanks

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Hello Underdog! Im rather new to this site, but I have been a long time thread stalker on here.

I got an st 170 last year as a track car, and you have greatly inspired me. I find your workmanship and skills highly interesting, educational and very inspiring.

I have read through your build thread a good few times and watched all your video's.

Just wanted to say thank you for posting all your content for poor and amatuer diyers such as myself with less knowledge and skill :P.

Also I am very glad you are still modifying your 170 and I cant wait to see how your throttle body route goes

Keep on underdoggin!!
thank you very much. glad your enjoying it and its great to know its helping you out. cheers


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Interesting update Steve (it popped up on my YouTube feed this morning), I will take note on how this update goes especially the noise it makes

thanks paul. getting closer to giving it a first start. probably about an hours worth of work before i start hooking the laptop up to the ecu. then my headaches will start.



Old 30-12-2016, 06:00 PM
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its nice to see you working on it as all I do is rip 170s apart thesedays
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Old 31-12-2016, 10:51 PM
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iv spent 4 yrs ripping this one apart. wife says iv ruined a good car lol
Old 08-01-2017, 05:45 PM
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About time you started doing something with it Steve. I got bored of the fiesta to and I've started on my focus now lol.
Couldn't buy my focus parts back could I? lol.
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Steve what spring rate and lenght you using on the rear now? the ones I've got on the focus even at 60mm from stock height are far too high (still looks factory height lol) with no weight in the back.
Old 08-01-2017, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Welsh_Bugs
Steve what spring rate and lenght you using on the rear now? the ones I've got on the focus even at 60mm from stock height are far too high (still looks factory height lol) with no weight in the back.
if they look stock at -60mm then someothing cant be right. im running 10kg rears. what make are you using?
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Originally Posted by The Underdog
if they look stock at -60mm then someothing cant be right. im running 10kg rears. what make are you using?
There just cheap Gmax springs Steve, don't lower to well anyway and now the rears stripped the cars just gone back up in the air lol. You wouldn't happen to remember the dimensions of the springs would you?
Old 09-01-2017, 12:22 PM
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think they were 180mm long but on adjustable platform. stop buying cheapy g max and get some decent stuff
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Originally Posted by The Underdog
think they were 180mm long but on adjustable platform. stop buying cheapy g max and get some decent stuff
I'm gonna have to work out the length of them without a platform then as she's going in Clubman class and I'm not allowed adjustable suspension. Lol they were on hand from two focus ago, I need to stop building cars then stripping and selling them lol. This time I'm stealing as much off the fiesta as I can then selling the left overs.

One thing I had left over from the other focus you couldn't have was the powerflex bushes, so they have come in handy now lol.
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I never realized how much goes into fitting these, top video Steve, and hopefully you will get more subscribers to your YouTube channel

Keep up the good work
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Old 15-01-2017, 03:45 PM
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awesome work here ! looking forward to hearing it start up !
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Old 11-03-2017, 08:35 PM
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Hopefully we will get to hear this soon
Old 12-03-2017, 11:21 AM
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it got mapped monday. it made 190bhp. 174ftlb. but some issues have been found since so its going elswhere to get mapped again. long story. will update when its all sorted.
Old 12-03-2017, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Underdog
it got mapped monday. it made 190bhp. 174ftlb. but some issues have been found since so its going elswhere to get mapped again. long story. will update when its all sorted.
Thats not too bad i would guess there is more to be had as the omex conversions do over 200bhp on a black top.
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I have had a change of plan and bought some bike carbs but would still be interested in your experiences, hope it all works out.
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Originally Posted by costina
Thats not too bad i would guess there is more to be had as the omex conversions do over 200bhp on a black top.
a blacktop would need a fair few mods on top to hit 200. I have 2 mates with black tops on jenvey and emerald ecu and they are making around 165bhp.

Power wise I'm near the limit on a standard engine bit map need smoothing out.
Old 12-03-2017, 10:14 PM
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If you could think back Steve to how the car went before the modifications, how different do you think it actually feels and goes ?
Old 12-03-2017, 10:18 PM
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at the moment it runs like crap. iv got misfires and almost impossible to cold start. it will be sorted soon but its been a bit of a pain of relying on the wrong people to get it done.
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Old 12-03-2017, 10:21 PM
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Nice result. I wonder what you'll get with a decent map? What sort of total cost are you looking at for this conversion if you don't mind me asking?
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Nice result. I wonder what you'll get with a decent map? What sort of total cost are you looking at for this conversion if you don't mind me asking?


thanks. all in without mapping cost just under 1k. thats ecu,loom,throttle bodies,filter, trumpets, backplate. silicone hoses. fuel rail and fuel return and pump sender unit.
Old 13-03-2017, 08:12 PM
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Bloody hell thats not bad. I've got a zero mile ST170 lump doing nothing. I'm half tempted to buy a dead St and bang it in.
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Bloody hell thats not bad. I've got a zero mile ST170 lump doing nothing. I'm half tempted to buy a dead St and bang it in.

the ecu is the big money saver. i was looking into a dta s60 ecu and that was 1200 just for ecu and loom. the me221 is the cheapest ecu i know of that will run vvt.
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The exhaust cam is a bit low on lift, so you could buy a stage 1 exhaust from cat cams with the same duration but 1mm more lift. What is the timing on the VVT?
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Originally Posted by pyle
The exhaust cam is a bit low on lift, so you could buy a stage 1 exhaust from cat cams with the same duration but 1mm more lift. What is the timing on the VVT?

thanks but i wouldnt put any money into cams if im honest. id turbo it before putting anymore cash at NA.
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Turbo FWD track car never works!.. You'll be as fast as a slightly modified N/A engine.
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Originally Posted by pyle
Turbo FWD track car never works!.. You'll be as fast as a slightly modified N/A engine.
Complete bollocks!!
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