samg91

im curious at what kind of bhp i can get from my 1.6 focus, i was hoping to do an engine conversion but by peoples comments i dont think ill be doing that any kind of help id be grateful and a ruff cost of the parts you mention please?

cheers

chaffe

300 bhp should not pose a problem. forged rods, pistons and a steel crank, uprated oil pump, steel ML HG, gt28rs turbo on focus rs manifold, megasquirt efi, big intercooler and pipes, 440cc/min injectors and an uprated walbro fuel pump would be a good start, id say in the region of 3 grand if you do the work yourself, then you will need an uprated gearbox and clutch of course, and also some better brakes. Alternativly buy something thats faster already.

samg91

cheers, can you fit a turbo to a 1.6? ive only ever seen superchargers on the 1.8. id love to buy a faster car but where im 19 they would rape me on the insurance hench why i want to keep it a 1.6 but make it one of a kind lol

DAN400

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my advice would be dont waste your money, stick it out for another couple of years,
you ll pump ££££ into 1.6 to get more power then when i come to selling up you ll get shit all for it, save your money and when insurance allows just buy a fast car

chaffe

escort rst?

samg91

i see your point but i hate having no power, before this i was driving my cousins astra gsi turbo with 340bhp and i was creaming my pants lol

hogdog

The 1.6 Focus engine is completely different to the RS so you can't use the manifold and it's not a strong engine so you're very limited to how much boost/power you can run. People have done it in the past (think van aaken) but they almost all went bang pretty quickly.

There is one company doing it that seems to be having some success if want no more than 200bhp http://www.oc-motorsport.co.uk/

It's technically possible but it's a tricky engine to tune, especially as if you go mental tuning it going the N/A route it will never have enough torque to haul around the relatively heavy Focus. Then there's the gearbox which is as weak as a kitten with the flu.

hogdog

oh BTW you're not going to get much change from £5k from even a very basic turbo conversion...seeing as there are decent RS's going for not much more than that it's a question of how much you want to be different?

If you want a decent, reliable focus for around £2k get a 2.0 ESP, probably the best of the bunch with loads of tuning potential.

RichieST

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'kin ell, what you gonna be like when you drive a fast car?

You can get about 170bhp with throttle bodies but there really is no point. May aswell save your pennies and put them towards something that is quicker out of the box!

chaffe

i was under the impression that the 1600 zetec head was very similar to the 1800/2000 zetec? pissing in the wind with the 1600 anyway IMO

massivewangers

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The earlier Zetec engine, the 'silver top', was basically the same in 1.6/1.8/2.0 form. All shared a very similar design, with different cylinder heads.

By the time of the Focus, the 1.8/2.0 used the 'black top' Zetec engine, which was a revision of the earlier 'silver top'

The 1.6 was a Zetec-SE, and was from the same family as the 1.25, 1.4 and 1.7 engines, developed by Yamaha. Totally different design, with an alloy block. Inlet and exhaust are on different sides of the head too. Don't think any parts are interchangeable.

clarke5700

easyest way imo would be to convert it to frs engine/running gear

chaffe

cool, im getting confused with the escort 16v zetecs, in that case sell the focus and buy something faster for sure. PS the 1800 and 2000 silver tops all have the same head

callummarshall

the 1.6 in the focus is the same as the mk5 fez zs and those guys are managing arrounf th 150-160 mark with omex engine management, millteck, induction kits and ss4 cams i think thats what most ar running and that costs in the region of 2k i think this is rough not exact

massivewangers

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The 1800 head has smaller combustion chambers to my knowledge?

The problem there would be weight I think. In a Fiesta, that's probably quite good, but I think in a heavy Focus, a lack of torque, especially at low revs would mean you still wouldn't have a very quick car.

I think you'd be much better starting off with a 1.8/2.0. Turbocharging may overcome the torque issues to some degree but, if you started with a bigger engine, you'd get far bigger gains for your money with turbocharging, as people have a lot more experience turbocharging the bigger engines.

But, all that said, at 19, I think insuring any car with major engine modifications would bankrupt you!

chaffe

nope, they are identical

samg91

thanks for the comments guys i think i might just stick some wheels on it smoke the lights etc.. all cosmetic work until im at the age where insurance on a faster car would be affordable.

callummarshall

good on you thats exactly what you need to do

chaffe

steer clear of loud exhausts and the like, people will just think you are a b#* end, as said keep it subtle and people will give you the respect you deserve.

zetec-Sam

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OCmotorsport will bolt a turbo on for an instant 200bhp on standard internals. Same as he ran his green machine with in time attack 2010.

samg91

i aint a great fan of loud exhausts they only sound good on evo's with stupid amount of bhp lol