Cosworth 4x4 into a 1972 Mini

[LHD220Turbo]

power to weight ultimate sleeper

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[RS-Stian]

Holy shit, crazy stuff but lovin' it. Looking forward to updates on this project.

Keep it up

[xr2john]

nutter...

[kmol468]

I'm based in Banbury, but I'm getting people who know what there doing to do the cage and suspension setup. Then I'm going to do all the tidious work like removing all excess brackets, sound deadening, wiring.
I think I might go for some 9x13 superlights as the cxr's are proving problematic as ford105e suggests. That way I can still get some 235 wide r888's

[Rich_bloor]

fantastic project !!!

[Fiesta_ie]

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[SiST]

Cant wait to see this evolve!

Crazy project!

[Mongo]

Originally Posted by kmol468

I'm based in Banbury, but I'm getting people who know what there doing to do the cage and suspension setup. Then I'm going to do all the tidious work like removing all excess brackets, sound deadening, wiring.
I think I might go for some 9x13 superlights as the cxr's are proving problematic as ford105e suggests. That way I can still get some 235 wide r888's

Aah cool. I'd love to come and take a look around when things really start taking off and I know Mr.Flower'd love to too. I'm only in wantage.

What's happening engine wise. Not going to need much power in a light little mini, a lot of power's going to be pretty wacky!

[Dan F]

Im liking the sound of this project

All the best with it

[alistairolsen]

Originally Posted by kmol468

I'm based in Banbury, but I'm getting people who know what there doing to do the cage and suspension setup. Then I'm going to do all the tidious work like removing all excess brackets, sound deadening, wiring.
I think I might go for some 9x13 superlights as the cxr's are proving problematic as ford105e suggests. That way I can still get some 235 wide r888's

I didnt think they went wider than 225 in a 13?

[A16X_TM]

hahaha, oh yeah this one will make you smile!!!

[kmol468]

Originally Posted by alistairolsen

I didnt think they went wider than 225 in a 13?

My apologies, typo, yeah i was just going to get some R888 - 225s.

As for the engine, i was thinking a stage 3 setup with around 350bhp. Hopefully that will keep me quiet for a few months until the craving for more power kicks in!!!
Although i understand that 350bhp should be relatively trouble free and achievable quite easily with a t34 and decent injectors, thinking along the lines of Sieman 55, however i already have some green injectors fitted.

Ive been spending some more money, so i will post up a few pictures of goodies I have accumulated.

[XRT_si]

Look foward to seeing this progress!

[Glenn.]

Need more pics.

[BIG.GEOFF.H]

cool as fook mini was my first car im a bit to big for em really gunna be a tight fit but it has been done with a V6 4X4 iirc a good few years back cool project and i will deffo be keeping an eye on it. and i would deffo do it for the road as well from the start its free tax for gods sake lol. and will be good to just go out for a spin when ever you want

geoff

[fezzajsy]

mental!!

[Dicko&Sarah]

awesome project cant wait to see some more progress

[WENNY]

its not a crazy idea its a excellent one,

what you doing with the width difference

[Joe Grp4 Escort]

Wkd project

Hope theres enough room for everything

[tommytxr]

holy shit

[steve frs]

would it not be easier and quicker and more safe if it were space framed and the body fitted to frame work??but then it wouldn't be tax free,,,,,well its an idea to fall back on,,

[Rides]

FUCK ME.... that sounds like insane fun deffo keeping an eye on this one

[dingla rs]

lol at sleeper ,shud be some mental fun hope see some up dates soon

[andycos]

Wow, i remember that sierra when it was a few doors up from me.
Its certainly changed !!
Good luck with the mini/cossie..

[carl/saff]

Mini - cos !!! great idea !! goodluck

[cozmeister]

This is the second thread I've found in 5 minutes where a Sierra Cosworth's been destroyed. At least the other was an accidental fire. Is there no-one that wants to keep them in one piece any more? At this rate, it won't be long before a Cosworth powered Sierra will be considered a novelty.

Originally Posted by kmol468

Anyhow lets get onto the project.... purchased a 4x4 sapphire cosworth and an old tax exempt mini... mix them both together and hopefully I will be left with abit of a special track day weapon that will put a smile on my face.

If you'd have actually driven the Sierra before you raped it you would've had a smile on your face and the Mini could've been left to continue doing the honourable thing: desolve.

[andy escos]

your absolutely mad ,but i like it lol

[kmol468]

Abit of an update, well just a few more pictures really before the main fabrication begins:

With regards to the width, I will just be running rather large arches, about 9" wide me thinks, but the arches are the last thing that im worried about. It will be running the same width as the cosworth otherwise I would have to have all four drive shafts made up aswell. Maybe something for the future to make it even more of a sleeper.

My apologies to cozmeister, but im sure there are more than two threads of people restoring cosworths to original spec, so it kinda balances it out. I knew it wouldnt please everyone but i feel that the pros outweigh the cons.

Anyway for the pictures:
Cosworth pictures:






Below bracing across the sill and to mark where the mini will come to, hopefully that will be in the sill of the mini! Also I had a go at removing the sound deadening but I didnt get very far!





Mini pictures:











The sills have disappeared ready for the transplant, hopefully the bracing will mate to this vertical panel




Boot floor


How rusty???




And a few goodies.... but im still waiting on my alloys...

R888, with thanks from Reyland


Pedal Box, with thanks from Tony - RS Nuts


YB0611 ready for rebuild


044 Fuel Pump


Updates to continue as and when....

[cozmeister]

So in order to make more work for yourself later, you're going to use the original drive shafts and make it wider than it is long or tall, and at the same time, cut down the rear propshaft to probably half its length because it's longer than the Mini...

Methinks you haven't thought this through.

Originally Posted by kmol468

My apologies to cozmeister, but im sure there are more than two threads of people restoring cosworths to original spec, so it kinda balances it out. I knew it wouldnt please everyone but i feel that the pros outweigh the cons.

There probably is only 2 Cosworth restorations on here at the moment. But that doesn't mean it's OK to destroy one only to bodge its innards into a nasty old Mini. That's not exactly 'balance'. I welcome restoration threads. They makes a change to seeing Cossies raped for parts. I also like seeing Sierra Cosworths built up into big-power specs suitable for the track, because that's where they came from. It's just a shame you couldn't have made it 3 restoration threads.

As I see it so far, the pros and cons weigh up as follows:

Pros: Rusty arse Mini with more tin worm and less solid steel than every Ford in Europe.
Cons: Perfectly good Sapphire with apparently no rust and an apparently perfectly good engine and running gear.

I understand now. I had my 'upside-down hat' on.

Originally Posted by kmol468

Mini pictures:

How rusty???

Well spotted. The first step to recovery is admitting the problem.

Originally Posted by kmol468

I knew it wouldnt please everyone

That's the second clever thing you've said.

If you're going to wreck a Cosworth in front of Cosworth enthusiasts, expect at least one to hate you for it.

Welcome to passionford by the way.

[Ginger Will]

Chop up the cossie! I think this is a great project. Good luck with it, although it will be manic once you get it running.

[kmol468]

Oh yeah, I expected people not to like what I'm doing, but hey your words aren't going to change what's going to happen.
I respect what your saying, but each to their own I guess

[WENNY]

thats not a 044 fuel pump mate, it has more pressure, its the motorsport 10bar version, so can run more power


and get the old taxi chopped to bits lol

[rallycross]

its a brave project, you must have a lot of experience in fabrication to even start it.


One question, why start off with a rotten mini? why not use a good shell? (looks from the pics to be well rotten~)

good luck with it , will be amazing when/if completed

[paul16v]

Cozmeister calm down dear its up to him what he does with HIS car's, its not the first saph that has been chopped up for a project and it deffo wont be the last each to there own and all that.

I think its a wicked project, big balls for attempting it

[dingla rs]

Originally Posted by cozmeister

So in order to make more work for yourself later, you're going to use the original drive shafts and make it wider than it is long or tall, and at the same time, cut down the rear propshaft to probably half its length because it's longer than the Mini...

Methinks you haven't thought this through.



There probably is only 2 Cosworth restorations on here at the moment. But that doesn't mean it's OK to destroy one only to bodge its innards into a nasty old Mini. That's not exactly 'balance'. I welcome restoration threads. They makes a change to seeing Cossies raped for parts. I also like seeing Sierra Cosworths built up into big-power specs suitable for the track, because that's where they came from. It's just a shame you couldn't have made it 3 restoration threads.

As I see it so far, the pros and cons weigh up as follows:

Pros: Rusty arse Mini with more tin worm and less solid steel than every Ford in Europe.
Cons: Perfectly good Sapphire with apparently no rust and an apparently perfectly good engine and running gear.

I understand now. I had my 'upside-down hat' on.



Well spotted. The first step to recovery is admitting the problem.



That's the second clever thing you've said.

If you're going to wreck a Cosworth in front of Cosworth enthusiasts, expect at least one to hate you for it.

Welcome to passionford by the way.

guessing you dont like my thread as i got 2 cut up cossie floors in my garage

get the cossie cut up there plenty the old boots still left on the road

[kmol468]

It's interesting about the fuel pump. It has the same part number as the 044 but I will look further into it, cheers.

I wish I could take all the credit for completing this project but I am getting help! As to using the (rusty) mini, I initially thought there wouldn't really be any of it left once the cutting was completed so I thought to stick with it and just use it. The panels are cheap enough just to pick up and fit when needs be.

[WENNY]

i was running one of them pumps at 550bhp when the 044 ran out of puff,

[kmol468]

Oh 550bhp would be nice! (grins) Although I think that kinda power might be abit over the top! It's nice to think that I could potentially bump up the power later though. (obviously with supporting mods though!)

[WENNY]

ye maybe a bit short for handling that kind of power on bends

[Glenn.]

It will go like fook with standard power never mind 550bhp lol.