lozi

This forum seems to be the best place to get answers for most things so i may as well try this one lol

Im 25 and i have decided to do my CBT and probably full bike test and try the bike thing!

I want to start on a 125 as the only experience of bike i have is C90's in fields etc


Im looking at 90's bikes eg TZR 125R 4DL, NSR 125, RG125 etc

Anybody got any previous experience or view on the pros and cons of different bikes and which i should go for?

MK5 ESCORT

Ive heard the TZR125 is the fastest of the lot and i own a nsr125 and i cant fault it one bit (it is in bits atm)

KnoxyGtt

aprilia rs125?

lozi

Ive have also heard the TZR is the fastest but i think parts are hard to find for them.


I think these are all to new and expensive for me but there are alot of them about it seems!

JonnyC48

I had a tzr 125r 4dl a couple of years back and loved it!

Very reliable never broke down on me, so long as you keep topping up with 2-stroke they're fine.

One issue you will have is sourcing parts since they are a belgarda import, but i remember i managed to find a microfische online which helped a lot.

They use a powervalve system as well so check that they work.
The one thing i like about the bike was the brembo 4 pots awesome!

Here's my bike.....

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

my first bike was a honda cbr 125, its just sat here in my garage over the past 2 years and only covered 500 miles from new lol, as i went for my test soon after and bought a gsxr 600

but the little cbr does handle well, doesnt go like big bikes but handles extremly well considering the tyre sizes on 125s

TOMMY_RS

TZR's are fucking quick, rs125's are nice but unrealiable, CBR 125 are nice bikes, although newer ones are slow as fuck compared to other bikes in that range, personally mate i wouldn't get a 125, you get one, its good for a few weeks then you get used to the power and you want some thing bigger and better, also they can be unreliable, and worst of all, there usually owned by some 17 year old twat that rides like a tit and has ragged the balls of it.

jammerrs

go and get a yzfr125, looked at them today £113 a month on 0% finance

MK5 ESCORT

Heres mine (project) NSR 125 italain import , been sat in the garage for years now , i did advertise it but havent had any interest as people dont want to be putting them back together.

lozi

JonnyC48 - Thats idealy the bike i want i think it looks alot better than all the other 125's and yours looks good! is the YPVS a problem area then?


Alot of people have said to me i will get very bored of a 125 very quickly due to the way i am with cars but i want to ride on a CBT for a while before i do the full test so a 125 is all i can i think.


I really like the look of this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1994-YAMAHA-TZ...77853101729063

mrjenrst

cagiva mito's are THE ultimate 125 stroker end off.

TOMMY_RS

had a mate with one of them, was fast as fuck, reliable and dead easy and nice to ride

lozi

Never even considered these i always thought they were just crap little things that looked like 916's lol

1.9 xr2 on 40's

having owned millions of them i would suggest depending on your size a uk tzr125 is a cheap type, not teh racer style most mention but ist cheap as fuck to fix get bits for and taking them from 12bhp/85mph std to c.25 and 110mph is relitively simple

ive had import tzr's and found them constantly troublesome, 1 has only 2k and was alot of hassle, i still have an aprillia 125 in my shed, its teh fastest they did before around 2003 (when i stopped caring) and its horrible to ride

in teh big picture i woudl say do you cbt, then do you test on a 600 (summet shit the test place give you) then get anything you fancy
i passed on a shitty 600 bought a fireblade and thats what i ride now, no need to upgrade later except to newer and it goes as fast and you mit makes it, infinatly reliable, doesnt annoy neighbours like a 2 stroke etc etc

rschristoff

i had a tzr125 4dl and was an awsome bike.also had a 1989 ns125f,pretty quick,and its a honda so nice and reliable...
Then a couple of years ago went and bought a brand new aprilia rs125 full power.
£3500 was a bit steep but did 110mph and handled like a dream.plus it didnt look like a 125.i had no problems with it and did 5500 miles on it,didnt run it in and thrashed it everywhere.
problem with the cbr125's or even most of the 4 strokes is that they dont have much power,where as the strokers do.id say get either nsr,tzr or aprilia.cagivas are un reliable.

fiestamad

u could get a dt125r fast but is a supermoto and very rilerble

kiddie

Here is my old bike from back it the day lol, I had an RG125 aswell and that was my fav. I sold this for £150!!!

JonnyC48

It's only really an issue when electrical things start to go wrong because it is controlled by the cdi and other sensors, but i think the dt125's sufferred this more.

I loved my TZR purely because it didn't look like a 125 more of a bigger bike. Might not be as nimble as the rest but deffo quicker.

There are the later model tzr's as well i think called the TZR125RR just a bit more round which 'Kiddie' put up.

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

are these a cheap laugh...

What would you expect to pay?

How long does a CBT allow you to drive these i did mine when i was 16.

can you not just drive them on a full car licence

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

whats the 0-60 time on this and what do you think it will go for?

rschristoff

a C.B.T lasts for 3 years and no you cant ride 1 on a car licence

mrjenrst

not crap at all mate, they go like stink first bike i could propper get my knee down. and they look cool as fuck.

i'd ridden rgv's,tzr's and the rs125, but bought a mito

still got it 10 years later

MK5 ESCORT

2 years , i have to re take mine this august , passed it back when i was 16 and he told me i could retake every 2 or do my test.

Big-Dan

iTrader: (2)

+ 1

Here's a tidy one for okay money

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CAGIVA-MITO-EV...item19bcf5a49b

Big-Dan.

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

so if i go and do my cbt again which was a piece of piss will that allow me to drive one of these ?

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

that does look good, is it good money?

will it always sell on for that if kept in good condition?

mrjenrst

the price's dont really change tbh. Keep it in good condition and take care of it you could make money on 1
They're are really hard to get hold of. I bought mine and 2 a couple of mates bought 1 each a couple of years later and then they had a choice of black, red or yellow, and only had 1 of each colour thats from the only official dealer back in 02

lozi

Im not sure of the 0-60 but ive been told it will do your average boy racer car to 70 but thats about it.

I would expect it to go for between £600 and £800, buy it and when youy get bored in a couple months ill have it off ya lol

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

you know me lol...

I just want to get something to have a laugh on that i dont need to do my test for...

£1200 seems like the dearest one about though.

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

You woofters never thought to get anything bigger?

At 25 there is fuck all need to get a 125 over a 400 or 600. If you've ridden a bike in a field then that's a lot more than myself and most others had done.

Go on grow a pair

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

Jesus christ i didnt click the links but thought i best see in case they really were a good cheap alternative. Err fuck that! £1200?

Mate got a reasonable cbr6 n plate for £900!!!

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

but you need a licence chop!

rossco22

A m8 used to have an rgr , used to love that and it was as quick 0-60 as my standard rs turbo , but by 70 i would be alongside , i think his bike used to to about 90 tops...

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

So? go do the test then!

You'll soon get bored of the 125, especially when you get overtaken by bigger bikes

lozi

Thats a fair point and i have thought about VFR 400's but that means i have to do my full bike test i was planning on running a 125 on a CBT for a while.

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

Lozi said he'd do the full bike thing so having a 125 is pointless.

I'd make a bet with ANYONE that should they do the test and get a bike then regret it that i'd pay out on the bet. It's that much of a no brainer.

Having a 125 when you could get something bigger is like wanting an RS, being able to afford an RS 500 and choosing to buy a fiesta RS1800

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

is the bike test not difficult and expensive?

Youre talking to someone thats ridden an R6 like 3 times. Not very well i may add.

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

Riding a bike isn't rocket science so the test shouldn't be. I did the old one no sweat with no experience and something like 8 hours of lessons.

Think in 03 it was circa £500.

zetec-Sam

iTrader: (2)

If you do the week long one (direct access maybe?) I think it's about £700 (that's about what my mate paid anyway)

Oh, found this

http://www.southernridertraining.co.uk/products.html

(for round my way)

TOMMY_RS

mate, a c.b.t last for 2 years, also if you pass your car test while still holding a valid c.b.t you can ride a 50 with no L plates, and a 125 with L plates, if you don;t have a car lience you have to have : plates on a 125, not sure about if you pass your car test then take a c.b.t lol