Anyone got one of these lying around? inc PICS
26-11-2005, 11:38 AM
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Anyone got one of these lying around? inc PICS
Hi folks,
On the way to running up 371bhp at Interpro the other day my car left two large blocks of rubber on the rollers after it was driven out. They were from my prop shaft - where it joins on to the back of the gearbox.
My car is a 1991 4 x 4 Saph. Doug Stirling kindly gave me an old (but intact) bush to tide me over while I ordered a new one, but sadly it's not the right style for my car.
Pics:
My old dead bush - think you can see the problem! (Note the metal shim/spigot type bit in the centre of the bush)
Bush Doug lent me (£54 from Ford, wrong type for my car, no centre shim/spigot):
Bush bought from Deflex - £49 (also wrong type for my car, and they don't do one like my first pic
):
My local Ford dealer can't supply the bush I need (see the top pic) - they tell me I need to buy a whole new propshaft with bush at £392!!!! Bollocks to that!
I called Woodford Garage and they told me that 1992 Saphs and Escos were different to my early 4 x 4 set up, and they suggested either buying an EsCos rear prop (that would then fit the orange Deflex bush) or buying the £392 shaft from Ford!
So has anyone got one of these lying around they don't need? Or know where I can get one specifically like the one in my first pic? I'm sure someone else with a 4x4 has had a similar problem...
Anyone know if an Escos prop shaft would bolt up to the Orange bush in the pic and my gear box? Is it that simple?
HELP please!!!!
Simon
On the way to running up 371bhp at Interpro the other day my car left two large blocks of rubber on the rollers after it was driven out. They were from my prop shaft - where it joins on to the back of the gearbox.
My car is a 1991 4 x 4 Saph. Doug Stirling kindly gave me an old (but intact) bush to tide me over while I ordered a new one, but sadly it's not the right style for my car.
Pics:
My old dead bush - think you can see the problem! (Note the metal shim/spigot type bit in the centre of the bush)
Bush Doug lent me (£54 from Ford, wrong type for my car, no centre shim/spigot):
Bush bought from Deflex - £49 (also wrong type for my car, and they don't do one like my first pic
):My local Ford dealer can't supply the bush I need (see the top pic) - they tell me I need to buy a whole new propshaft with bush at £392!!!! Bollocks to that!
I called Woodford Garage and they told me that 1992 Saphs and Escos were different to my early 4 x 4 set up, and they suggested either buying an EsCos rear prop (that would then fit the orange Deflex bush) or buying the £392 shaft from Ford!
So has anyone got one of these lying around they don't need? Or know where I can get one specifically like the one in my first pic? I'm sure someone else with a 4x4 has had a similar problem...
Anyone know if an Escos prop shaft would bolt up to the Orange bush in the pic and my gear box? Is it that simple?
HELP please!!!!
Simon
26-11-2005, 12:44 PM
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Simon - does it have "GAF31" written on it anywhere?
I had a problem with a 2wd MT75 sierra, mine was this type. I got the same story from ford and eventually ended up with one from a local prop specialist. I was told it was from a BMW, so what Tony is saying sounds right. Sorry I can't remember what model.
I may still have the prop lying around, I'll have a look in a bit and see
Neil.
I had a problem with a 2wd MT75 sierra, mine was this type. I got the same story from ford and eventually ended up with one from a local prop specialist. I was told it was from a BMW, so what Tony is saying sounds right. Sorry I can't remember what model.
I may still have the prop lying around, I'll have a look in a bit and see
Neil.
26-11-2005, 12:57 PM
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Now this is what Passionford is all about = thanks everyone so far!
Deflex tell me they only do the Orange one pictured above - I'm not sure if they will do custom bits, but if they can make the orange one I'm sure they 'could' make the one I need if there was the demand / the money! I'll ask them.... good idea Creedy!
Found an American website selling Beemer 635i prop bushs, similar in shape / style to the Wrong bushes pictured above - seems like Tony, Ben and Neil are all on to something.
Will try BMW parts dept for a 535i 1990 and see what they come up with. Thanks Benn
Deflex tell me they only do the Orange one pictured above - I'm not sure if they will do custom bits, but if they can make the orange one I'm sure they 'could' make the one I need if there was the demand / the money! I'll ask them.... good idea Creedy!
Found an American website selling Beemer 635i prop bushs, similar in shape / style to the Wrong bushes pictured above - seems like Tony, Ben and Neil are all on to something.
Will try BMW parts dept for a 535i 1990 and see what they come up with. Thanks Benn
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26-11-2005, 01:00 PM
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For info the bush I have has the following written on it:
GOETZE
21.5
810
88.0890
70
SHORE
87BG-4684-CB
31120
I've found a GOETZE web site- Indian company selling loads of engine parts to major manufacturers - doubt they'll want to send me just the one then!
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GOETZE
21.5
810
88.0890
70
SHORE
87BG-4684-CB
31120
I've found a GOETZE web site- Indian company selling loads of engine parts to major manufacturers - doubt they'll want to send me just the one then!
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26-11-2005, 01:03 PM
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news here...
I deal with one of the biggest propshaft manufacturers and suppliers of parts to assemble props in the UK and I had to source one of these for DeanSaff recently for his 4x4.
I was told it was the only one they could get after a week of searching and it was about £110+VAT
I can have another go for you.... but I wont hold out much hope.
I deal with one of the biggest propshaft manufacturers and suppliers of parts to assemble props in the UK and I had to source one of these for DeanSaff recently for his 4x4.
I was told it was the only one they could get after a week of searching and it was about £110+VAT
I can have another go for you.... but I wont hold out much hope.
26-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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Oh and not trying to be funny...
But look at the inserts in the genuine Ford Doughnut and look at the ones in the Deflex one.....
Deflex are turd for things like inserts
But look at the inserts in the genuine Ford Doughnut and look at the ones in the Deflex one.....
Deflex are turd for things like inserts
26-11-2005, 01:09 PM
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NBot read whole thread but there is a section of front prop for ECos being sold on EBay by twocossiebob off here, see his thread in parts for sale.... will prop slide straight onto tyour original propshaft 
26-11-2005, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lloyd
i have one you can have, its from a 93 4x4.iam sure its the same. 
Dont think SiB (Simon) will be on-line this evening
Lloyd, where abouts are you? Depending on how far away you are I will drive over to you (or meet you part-way) with some cash.........Maybe tomorrow?
26-11-2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Knife
I've got some in the shed from the original XR4i. I'll dig one out and check the numbers/dimensions...
26-11-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lloyd
iam in coventry mate, but will be at the passionford meet at the malt shovel at 2pm. bush is foc, as i have the skyline box, and the old prop wont fit 
WOW thanks!Best that either Simon or I go to that meet tomorrow then.....
Just to make sure we are talking about the CORRECT bush/donut thingy:
26-11-2005, 05:13 PM
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just had a look in a haynes manual,and it shows this bush fitted to standard 2wd sierras. i got one 12 months ago from my local gearbox and prop place.i will ring him monday and see if he has any more.
26-11-2005, 07:01 PM
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CHEERS VERY MUCHLY
Doug, nearly spat out my beer reading your post with the pics - sheer comedy genius !!
If anyone has got one like the one in the pics with the big green tick on it then I'll very happily send some spondulies to you if you could post it to me. Think a run to Coventry could be cool, but I'm not in a huge rush, so can wait for postage no problem.
Lloyd, deffo appreciate what you're doing and the offer of FOC, but I'd feel better if I at least funded some
for ya!
Thanks Doug for following this up for me - I'm off out on the lash now, will be back on in the morning!
THANK YOU PASSIONFORD PEOPLE!!
CHEERS VERY MUCHLYDoug, nearly spat out my beer reading your post with the pics - sheer comedy genius
!!If anyone has got one like the one in the pics with the big green tick on it then I'll very happily send some spondulies to you if you could post it to me. Think a run to Coventry could be cool, but I'm not in a huge rush, so can wait for postage no problem.
Lloyd, deffo appreciate what you're doing and the offer of FOC, but I'd feel better if I at least funded some
for ya!Thanks Doug for following this up for me - I'm off out on the lash now, will be back on in the morning!
THANK YOU PASSIONFORD PEOPLE!!
26-11-2005, 09:27 PM
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Theres a link on here same problem:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66101
that leads you to here:
http://www.grahamgoode.com/frsus3.htm
Near bottom of page. ggr 732 ??
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66101
that leads you to here:
http://www.grahamgoode.com/frsus3.htm
Near bottom of page. ggr 732 ??
26-11-2005, 09:44 PM
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Dont laugh but i think all the old type 9 gearboxes had the same doughnut, cos i had a 1800 prop and a 2.9 xr4x4 prop and they were the same. From memory a few years ago when i had my 4x4 cos they were the same as. The gaf 31's and 41's are only for 2wd mt75's and they only come complete with prop as they are 'supposed' to be balanced as one unit 
27-11-2005, 09:47 AM
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Simon,
I think I have one you can have its a good 2nd Hand version i'll check later....but there is another way around the problem...some wont like the idea but you can modify for little cost the back prop to take a normal transit flange then put the mating flange on your box....it removes the bush....some will say it has adverse effects but most uprated boxes run this configuration anyway....
I'll have a look for the doughnut if you still need one...
Regards
Ian
I think I have one you can have its a good 2nd Hand version i'll check later....but there is another way around the problem...some wont like the idea but you can modify for little cost the back prop to take a normal transit flange then put the mating flange on your box....it removes the bush....some will say it has adverse effects but most uprated boxes run this configuration anyway....
I'll have a look for the doughnut if you still need one...
Regards
Ian
27-11-2005, 09:52 AM
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I have a brand new one of these that I dont need if its of use to anyone.
Bought from Nordic a few years ago ( remember them !) its group N spec as in it has a higher shore hardness - thats what they told me anyway
Its the proper one with the centre bearing as per the picture
Cost me £75 - best offer secures
Bought from Nordic a few years ago ( remember them !) its group N spec as in it has a higher shore hardness - thats what they told me anyway
Its the proper one with the centre bearing as per the picture
Cost me £75 - best offer secures
28-11-2005, 12:21 PM
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just spoken to the company who modifyed my propshaft, these are very hard to find,gotta ring him back in 30 mins.see if he can find any.they did say that they can modify the old propshaft to take a different bush.
