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Old 17-12-2011, 08:42 PM
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Off any sort rs 1600 for example?
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not that im aware. 1600 injection ghia was the daddy.
Old 17-12-2011, 08:47 PM
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There was the RS body kit available for them though.
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Nope. The 1600e was the top spec onion, but they didn't do a"fast" one.
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wrong 1600 e was the daddy
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mk3 orion Ghia Si 1800 zetec, my mate had one was basically a top spec MK5 escort and had all the RS2000 kit on it was a rare factory fit job.. Was painted Lavent (sp?) grey too. like a baby saff.

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Old 17-12-2011, 08:56 PM
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Was the mk3 Orion ever called an Orion? I thought they were all escort saloons to add to sales figures at the end of escort production, I know that's the case with the late ones. Sound like a bit of an Orion nerd here!!!
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The 1600e didnt come along till 1989, i was on about the mk1 orion abc reg ones, the ones that shared the same engine as a xr3i but came in a lot cheaper to insure.
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Still an Orion though mate!
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No lol my mate had it when i was 16 think he was 19/20 at time. Remeber it well i'll find a couple of pics.
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Here it is only two i have unfortunalty. Apparntly it onnly reason with it didnt have RS2K interior is because it wouldnt fit, Ie number of doors and shape of rear seats.

Ford Factory abortion.

Check it ouut rear wiper on a saloon, A/C and sunshine roof.

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Old 17-12-2011, 09:17 PM
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My Mum had one just like the one pictured above in the same colour, same kit, alloys etc but I'm sure it was a 1.6 Ghia?
Had front and rear electric windows and a sunroof from what I can remember.
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No because orion's were for old people.
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
My Mum had one just like the one pictured above in the same colour, same kit, alloys etc but I'm sure it was a 1.6 Ghia?
Had front and rear electric windows and a sunroof from what I can remember.
Possibly, this was defo a 1800, Rare to find them with the rs2000/XR3i bits from what i remember.
Old 17-12-2011, 10:11 PM
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Old 17-12-2011, 10:22 PM
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No

No matter what spin you put on it... looked like x or had y part on it.

Simply.

NO
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Originally Posted by JamesR1
Possibly, this was defo a 1800, Rare to find them with the rs2000/XR3i bits from what i remember.
I had an Orion Ghia Si, definitely an 1800, mine didn't have any 3i/2k parts on it, until I changed the front bumper, but was the same colour as the one pictured, along with the rear wiper.

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Old 18-12-2011, 10:00 AM
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they dropped the orion name on later mk6 escorts didnt they as people were getting confused when going in for an escort saloon.you want an orion sir,no i want an escort saloon lol.same with the astra/belmont
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They did not make an RS Orion, but there was a TurboTechnics kit available for the early MFi-equipped ones.

Dees of Sidcup, that my father used to run, was going to be an authorised dealer for Turbo Technics before Bristol Street Motors in Bromley were granted status and one of the demo cars was an Orion Ghia 1.6i on a B-reg. It had the optional RS accessory kit fitted as well.
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IIRC the Ghia Si was 1800 in either 105(or115)ps or the 130. Later ones came with the 2k stuff such as the 5 spokes and deeper bumper with the foggies in. 130's came with rear discs too. I had an early 130 without the 2k bumper, i loved it and it went well enough. I didn't get chance to get it how i wanted as it went bang after 6 weeks of owning it!
I think the mk2 orions with the rs kit on look shite personally.
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Mate of mine used to own a B reg blue orion ghia.
RST engine, RST recaros, sapphire boot spoiler, cut down sapphire front bumper.
Last time saw it the car was dragged from a garage it had been in for 10 years, rust had taken hold
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Originally Posted by iansoutham
They did not make an RS Orion, but there was a TurboTechnics kit available for the early MFi-equipped ones.

Dees of Sidcup, that my father used to run, was going to be an authorised dealer for Turbo Technics before Bristol Street Motors in Bromley were granted status and one of the demo cars was an Orion Ghia 1.6i on a B-reg. It had the optional RS accessory kit fitted as well.
Where was Dees in Sidcup Ian?
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A guy who works in a local breakers to me had a mk4 orion 1.6i ghia from new as an h plate efi model.

He said that it was one of a small number of `RS`model late spec orions.it was bahama blue, had the 1600e leather,full rs skirt kit with rs turbo bonnet and series 2 wheels.

I remember it vividly as he had it years then sold it on,not sure if he was telling me the truth but i never seen another like it.
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Originally Posted by iansoutham
They did not make an RS Orion, but there was a TurboTechnics kit available for the early MFi-equipped ones.
bang on!
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There was never an RS Orion. It was aimed at the mini exec market so it was never intended to be out-and-out sporting.

Top spec in the MK1 was 1.6i Ghia, which was carried on for the MK2. There was a 1600E in 1989 which had the same mechanicals but leather and wood inside.

For the MK3, they released the Ghia SI, which was similar to the Escort XR3i, being available in 105PS spec with drums and standard box, and then in 130PS spec which had the hotter cams and things, with rear disks and an MTX75 box. For the 1993/4 facelift the 130PS model was dropped, but the SI got an RS2000 front bumper/headlights, with the wheels that were later fitted to the MK6 RS2000. It was also at this time that the Orion name was dropped and they all became Escort saloons.

Then in 1995, the MK6 Escort came along, and the top spec was Ghia X until the saloon was dropped in 1998.

MK1, 2 and 3 models could be specified with an optional RS body kit, but there was never offically an RS model, just the Ghia I or Ghia Si.

I'll take my geek hat off now
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Had a root around earlier.
Found the old service history book here, also a service history book for the second XR2i they had Which is annoying as they kept NO service history for my Focus what so ever. Yet theres tonnes of the stuff from cars they owned 10+ years ago?

It was a 1992 Ford Orion Ghia Si in Polaris Grey and it was a 1.8 too
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Where was Dees in Sidcup Ian?
Right by the entrance to B&Q and DFS. It was compulsory-purchased in 1985 for the new layout that is there now. B&Q "assisted" Bexley Council in providing funding and they own most of the area that Schweppes does not.
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I also had one of the ghia si orion's with the 130 lump in.

It had the RS factory bodykit on it:
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I also fitted the RS bumper, bonnet and recaro's:
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Originally Posted by JamesR1
mk3 orion Ghia Si 1800 zetec, my mate had one was basically a top spec MK5 escort and had all the RS2000 kit on it was a rare factory fit job.. Was painted Lavent (sp?) grey too. like a baby saff.
My old chap had one and all on a K-plate, K417 OGF in Radiant Red. Lovely motor. Love to know what happened to it, he lost his way a bit and traded it on a 2.0 Vectra at Fords of Winsford
Just the same as this... http://www.motorsnaps.com/d/62760-4/...on-Ghia-Si.jpg

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Originally Posted by iansoutham
Right by the entrance to B&Q and DFS. It was compulsory-purchased in 1985 for the new layout that is there now. B&Q "assisted" Bexley Council in providing funding and they own most of the area that Schweppes does not.
Blimey, i never knew that was there!
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there was RS options on the mk3 (mk5 escort) shape orion, uprated suspension, interior trim and RS bumpers (looked like fiesta Si, round fogs
etc)
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I had a mk5 130ps ghia si which was a pretty damn fine car tbh as it went so well and had things like the disc rear beam as standard and glass mounted rear wiper, this was the day I picked it up years back so everything was standard

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1-pd, i had a j plate in black just the same. I loved it but just as i was getting it the way i wanted it, it let go on me.
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I'd still like a nice standard 130PS Si Orion. Rare as hens teeth now though
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ive had a fair few of these infact ive had loads of orions but no mk1s mk3 is my favourite worst thing i ever did selling my old red one :-(

That black one above is lovely, Hope i get another one day but they are so rare now
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Originally Posted by Bg_rs
I also had one of the ghia si orion's with the 130 lump in.

It had the RS factory bodykit on it:


I also fitted the RS bumper, bonnet and recaro's:
Like that one a lot
Looks very neat, just right
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Right then,
was in one of my centres today waiting for a punter to turn up, found some 1992/3 perf ford mags and in the news section was a story about the development of the "RS2000" orion mk3/mk5 escort shape, this had everything RS2000 inc engine! car/cars were built at ford SVA at Dunton, will fetch the mag home next time im in there, didnt get a chance to read it all.
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Originally Posted by st3v3
bang on!
A old mate had a Orion with a niki twin carb on it and she went like stink in the 80s lol pancake filters

Ive still got one that was fitted to my old ford capri 20s in attic
some where

Might have a look tomorrow for it

I remember the glass on the side for the petrol intake
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
Where was Dees in Sidcup Ian?
Just found this for you whilst going through my collection of certificates for one of the "projects".

Check the MOT garage stamp
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