Group A coils
23-06-2007, 03:10 PM
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Get one, get one, get one, that's all I can say.
If I had £40 or so to spend on my car this is what without doubt I would spend it on.
It idles MUCH smoother, starts MUCH better, pulls MUCH better low down.
Don't ask for downsides as there aren't any, unless you count ten minutes work to chop some wires about, ie puit on some different terminals, it even fits in the same place as the std one, with the same holes.
The only odd thing is finding the + and - marks, they are between each pair of terminals.
Honestly other people who have fitted them have said to me it is the best mod for the money they have ever done.
Just make sure you use decent leads plugs to take FULL advantage of it.
My sapphy pulls from 850 rpm in TOP without moaning, not like a rocket obviously but amazing you leave it in higher gear longer and it pulls harder, when I have been overtaking things I have gone to grab 3rd gear to change up and missed as it was already in 4th.
It really is so much smoother.
tabetha
If I had £40 or so to spend on my car this is what without doubt I would spend it on.
It idles MUCH smoother, starts MUCH better, pulls MUCH better low down.
Don't ask for downsides as there aren't any, unless you count ten minutes work to chop some wires about, ie puit on some different terminals, it even fits in the same place as the std one, with the same holes.
The only odd thing is finding the + and - marks, they are between each pair of terminals.
Honestly other people who have fitted them have said to me it is the best mod for the money they have ever done.
Just make sure you use decent leads plugs to take FULL advantage of it.
My sapphy pulls from 850 rpm in TOP without moaning, not like a rocket obviously but amazing you leave it in higher gear longer and it pulls harder, when I have been overtaking things I have gone to grab 3rd gear to change up and missed as it was already in 4th.
It really is so much smoother.
tabetha
23-06-2007, 05:36 PM
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A group A coil transformed my "RS Misfire" 
Was missing on boost, changed everything else, you know, plugs leads yadda yadda, fuck all difference, Group A coil and everything was yummy again.
Was missing on boost, changed everything else, you know, plugs leads yadda yadda, fuck all difference, Group A coil and everything was yummy again.
24-06-2007, 10:29 AM
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Sweet for 40 quid u carnt go wrong eh. I know my car on idle feels a bit lumpy. Do u get anymore mpg,even though im not that bothered. Well the next show im at with a spare 40 quid i will treat myself 2 1 for my car.
24-06-2007, 01:53 PM
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Got mine from MATT LEWIS 01922 692424, ace person to deal with very reliable, I know he is away at moment with family concerns, but is back shortly, and I do beleive going on the net with shop as well!!
Tbh I have not looked for any mpg improvement, but it does seem that it is better at normal speeds, trouble is I did not buy car to do normal speeds, so any improvement in power is used!!
tabetha
Tbh I have not looked for any mpg improvement, but it does seem that it is better at normal speeds, trouble is I did not buy car to do normal speeds, so any improvement in power is used!!
tabetha
24-06-2007, 02:36 PM
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Well like i said i will have 2 get 1 bought dont the group A coils have 4 spade connectors on the side what r they all 4 i know u will have a live n an earth.
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26-06-2007, 07:25 AM
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It has a pair of twin connectors, one side live the other side earth(ECU).
On the lancia it uses a multiplug to go over these which uses all four terminlas as the other two are suppressor one side and coil the other terminal.
tabetha
On the lancia it uses a multiplug to go over these which uses all four terminlas as the other two are suppressor one side and coil the other terminal.
tabetha
27-06-2007, 12:57 PM
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Ive got one of these....
Is this jus as good as the normal "group A" coils, looks almost identical, is a bosch part (off a volvo 850 T5)
I know it'll work, but will it be jus as good?
Is this jus as good as the normal "group A" coils, looks almost identical, is a bosch part (off a volvo 850 T5)
I know it'll work, but will it be jus as good?
27-06-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboShed
A group A coil transformed my "RS Misfire" Was missing on boost, changed everything else, you know, plugs leads yadda yadda, fuck all difference, Group A coil and everything was yummy again.
Was missing on boost, changed everything else, you know, plugs leads yadda yadda, fuck all difference, Group A coil and everything was yummy again.exactly the same as mine
14-07-2007, 08:47 AM
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Well each month i spend a little on my car.this month ive been getting a bit of body work done. Ive got a new back bumper 2 put on. So hopefully next month i might b able 2 get a group a coil.
14-07-2007, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by glennshute
Well each month i spend a little on my car...
Rear bumper (too lol, them sneaky hidden bollards doh!)
Front hubs.
Front N/S indicator.
Dashboard upper & lower (mine full of holes).
Alcon 6 paddle clutch.
Pair of front Avo coilovers.
Samco hose from T34 to air filter (existing one a bodge from wrong size Samco).
Starter motor.
RS CosTworth
20-07-2007, 06:54 PM
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my coil arrived yest from mike rainbird,and a set of rear shims,just wondering does it matter which terminals i use,i.e. does it matter which positive terminal and which negative terminal i connect to?
thanks,
Shane
thanks,
Shane
21-07-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by shanemc
my coil arrived yest from mike rainbird,and a set of rear shims,just wondering does it matter which terminals i use,i.e. does it matter which positive terminal and which negative terminal i connect to?
thanks,
Shane
thanks,
Shane
21-07-2007, 07:08 AM
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As said does not matter which so long as pos and neg the correct way.
There are two terminals on each as this is a LANCIA DELTA INTERGRALI part that uses all four, it has a moulded plug that fits over all four on the lancia that's all.
tabetha
There are two terminals on each as this is a LANCIA DELTA INTERGRALI part that uses all four, it has a moulded plug that fits over all four on the lancia that's all.
tabetha
21-07-2007, 12:28 PM
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nice one,ill have the car back on the road today,its been off the road the last few weeks due to changing the back end to 7.5",gonna wait till tomorrow till i change the coil,give myself a day of before-and-after driving first to see can i notice much difference between each coil
23-08-2007, 01:12 PM
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Well ive bought a group A coil from national day. I will just have 2 fit it now i was thinkin about joining the spade wires 2 the original wiring without cutting the bullet connectors off or make a bit of wire with connectors on each side. I cud use make bullet connector on 1 side n spades on the other side for the new coil.
23-08-2007, 02:12 PM
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Buy a MSD coil...these are even better then the "group A " ones.
I did have all the coils....std coil ....2 times a Group A coil....and now a MSD coil.
I did have all the coils....std coil ....2 times a Group A coil....and now a MSD coil.
23-08-2007, 03:45 PM
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If you are reffering to a COILPACK conversion, yes it is better but so is the price!!
When you can get a vastly superior standalone ecu for less than the cost of coilpack and closed loop for a w/m ecu it might not make sense.
tabetha
When you can get a vastly superior standalone ecu for less than the cost of coilpack and closed loop for a w/m ecu it might not make sense.
tabetha
23-08-2007, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
If you are reffering to a COILPACK conversion, yes it is better but so is the price!!
Nope, i'm not referring to a coilpack conversion....only a std plug and play coil which will replace the std Cosworth coil.
And the MSD coil is cheaper then the "group A" one.
Look at the picture from my engine bay, you can see still a piece of the coil.
Never missed a beat, while the std and "group A" coil did.
24-08-2007, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
If you are reffering to a COILPACK conversion, yes it is better but so is the price!!
Nope, i'm not referring to a coilpack conversion....only a std plug and play coil which will replace the std Cosworth coil.
And the MSD coil is cheaper then the "group A" one.
Look at the picture from my engine bay, you can see still a piece of the coil.
Never missed a beat, while the std and "group A" coil did.
24-08-2007, 10:29 AM
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I fitted a Grp A coil to my Saph and drove it to Nat Day and back, no problems at all. I didn't fancy bridging the existing leads with a bullet and spade connector, so I cut the wires. Spade connector on each termainal and colour coded with heatshrink!
24-08-2007, 12:32 PM
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I was going to use a FLAMETHROWER coil but was advsed not to by the people who sell it as being unsuitable, still must say the group a is defo loads better than the std ford fit one.
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25-08-2007, 02:34 PM
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Well ive fitted my coil checked 2 make sure car runs in its all ok. Im going out in my cossie 2 a meet tomorrow so will see how good it is. I bought the coil for 15 quid so what a bargain i was thinkin that i hope it worked before i fitted it cause it was second hand.
25-08-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
still must say the group a is defo loads better than the std ford fit one.
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But the MSD coil is better then the group A one.
As said, i did have tried them all, and the car does run smoother and never missed a beat with the MSD one.