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Old 16-12-2009, 11:23 AM
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Many in Bodybuilding would have heard the name 'HGH' going around, this is actually 'Human Growth Hormone' Well I started using it in September and the effects, well......incredible! Firstly I did not want to get huge, just a bit of added muscle and fat loss that I had read HGH does, even to those who dont train it aids muscle growth and fat loss! Well a few of my friends have being saying recently 'You are looking awsome, look younger and better' I knew HGH was good but not this good. A mate of mine who has a degree in chemistry found this after I told him about it......benefits of HGH......

HGH Benefits assessments on Strength, Exercise & Body Fat

showed an 88% increase in muscle strength
showed an 81% increase in muscle size
showed an 72% improvement in body fat loss
showed an 81% improvement in exercise tolerance
showed an 83% improvement in exercise endurance
HGH Benefits assessments Skin & Hair

showed a 71% improvement in skin texture
showed a 68% improvement in skin thickness
showed a 71% improvement in skin elasticity
showed a 51% improvement on wrinkle disappearance
showed a 38% improvement towards new hair growth
HGH Benefits for Healing, Flexibilty, & Resistance
showed a 55% improvement of healing old injuries
showed a 61% improvement of healing other injuries
showed a 71% improvement on healing capacity
showed a 53% improvement on back flexibility
showed a 73% improvement on resistance to common illness
HGH Benifits for Sexual Dysfunction Function
showed a 75% improvement in sexual potency and frequency
showed a 62% improvement in the duration of penile erection
showed a 57% improvement on frequency of nighttime urination
showed a 58% improvement on hot flashes
showed a 38% improvement on menstrual cycle regulation

HGH Benefits for Energy, Emotions, & Memory

showed a 84% improvement in energy levels
showed a 67% improvement on emotional stabiltiy
showed a 78% improvement on attitude towards life
showed a 62% improvement in memory
L Cass Terry, M.D., Ph.D. and Edmund Chein, M.D
Medical College of Wisconsin and Palm Springs
Life Extension Institute




No wonder im feeling good wish I had taken some before and after shots. One more thing, Its injected with an insulin needle so you cant even feel it as it sooooo small.

Anyone on hear who has thought about using HGH.......get on it!! You will be shocked at the changes. One big trouble is the price, still very very expensive, but hey, for what it has done to me I dont care about cost!!
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tbh not known anybody who has used it and rated it highly compared to doing say a test cycle for 6 months solid with good diet etc the gains are double that of test compared to hgh.Unless your high end body composition then i think its a waste of cash as you wont really see the benefits plus the fact it needs to be run for atleast 6 months to actually see or feel the difference

Then their is the fat hands and feet for first month atleast of using,the water retention and carpel tunnel syndrom

IMHO highly overated product BUT used correctly can be effective look at sly and arnie
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Very effective substance from what Ive heard, although personally I would touch it becaues of the side effects, but thats my attitude with all drugs so im sure it wont surprise you.

You arent diabetic though are you, there is a particular risk if you are I believe?
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Originally Posted by Chip
Very effective substance from what Ive heard, although personally I would touch it becaues of the side effects, but thats my attitude with all drugs so im sure it wont surprise you.

You arent diabetic though are you, there is a particular risk if you are I believe?
Paul cant be due to cycles he's ran in the past or he would be dead by now
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Originally Posted by godzilla
Many in Bodybuilding would have heard the name 'HGH' going around, this is actually 'Human Growth Hormone' Well I started using it in September and the effects, well......incredible! Firstly I did not want to get huge, just a bit of added muscle and fat loss that I had read HGH does, even to those who dont train it aids muscle growth and fat loss! Well a few of my friends have being saying recently 'You are looking awsome, look younger and better' I knew HGH was good but not this good. A mate of mine who has a degree in chemistry found this after I told him about it......benefits of HGH......

HGH Benefits assessments on Strength, Exercise & Body Fat

showed an 88% increase in muscle strength
showed an 81% increase in muscle size
showed an 72% improvement in body fat loss
showed an 81% improvement in exercise tolerance
showed an 83% improvement in exercise endurance
HGH Benefits assessments Skin & Hair

showed a 71% improvement in skin texture
showed a 68% improvement in skin thickness
showed a 71% improvement in skin elasticity
showed a 51% improvement on wrinkle disappearance
showed a 38% improvement towards new hair growth
HGH Benefits for Healing, Flexibilty, & Resistance
showed a 55% improvement of healing old injuries
showed a 61% improvement of healing other injuries
showed a 71% improvement on healing capacity
showed a 53% improvement on back flexibility
showed a 73% improvement on resistance to common illness
HGH Benifits for Sexual Dysfunction Function
showed a 75% improvement in sexual potency and frequency
showed a 62% improvement in the duration of penile erection
showed a 57% improvement on frequency of nighttime urination
showed a 58% improvement on hot flashes
showed a 38% improvement on menstrual cycle regulation

HGH Benefits for Energy, Emotions, & Memory
showed a 84% improvement in energy levels
showed a 67% improvement on emotional stabiltiy
showed a 78% improvement on attitude towards life
showed a 62% improvement in memory
L Cass Terry, M.D., Ph.D. and Edmund Chein, M.D
Medical College of Wisconsin and Palm Springs
Life Extension Institute




No wonder im feeling good wish I had taken some before and after shots. One more thing, Its injected with an insulin needle so you cant even feel it as it sooooo small.

Anyone on hear who has thought about using HGH.......get on it!! You will be shocked at the changes. One big trouble is the price, still very very expensive, but hey, for what it has done to me I dont care about cost!!
I have read about this and it does sound like the wonder drug,there was a study done on a group of old men and it transformed them,I also read it repaired joint and ligament problems,when injected into the stomach area it reduced fat
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Originally Posted by RS Specialist
I have read about this and it does sound like the wonder drug,there was a study done on a group of old men and it transformed them,I also read it repaired joint and ligament problems,when injected into the stomach area it reduced fat

My bf has gone down greatly! Far more leaner. Funny you should say about it being the 'wonder drug' as thats what I think to it. I have had 0 sides, not even a teeny spot!! I feel like im 18 years old. All the aches in my knees and elbows over the years of Kickboxing have gone, pain free! Gains as Sned said are not as good as say a course of Test but its just how its making me feel and had comments already about looking younger.....but Ł80 for 10 x 4.5iu's is a lot of money.....if only I knew a direct source from China or a dwarf in this country that would be prepared to do a deal on some.....lol
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Have you spoke to Rod?

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Paul, how many iu's you doing each day? i am going to run some next year for 6 months, just as a "repair" rather than to get big. My elbow and shoulder are wrecked.
Was thinking of 2ius every day.What do you think?

Cheers, Smudge
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Originally Posted by smudgerz
Paul, how many iu's you doing each day? i am going to run some next year for 6 months, just as a "repair" rather than to get big. My elbow and shoulder are wrecked.
Was thinking of 2ius every day.What do you think?

Cheers, Smudge

2iu's a day will be fine as a repair mate.

I know many people who are using growth aswell as myself at the mo', it really is a wonder drug mate.......In all my years of training and taking Steroids I never thought I would say that!
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If i were to run hgh ide run it for 1 month on its own then do 12 weeks test and 10 weeks deca then 8 weeks tren,prop and tbol and the difference doing hgh on its own for 6 months and then doing it this way would be totally different

I know a few guys who experemented with it 1 done 6 months solo and other done 1 yr solo and both after 4 months had like the pregnant woman 'glow' would be only way to describe it really.Their skin,hair and general well being was so much better it was unreal then they cycled next time with steds and the bodyfat and muscle growth and repair for them was top of the world in their words but these guys are competitors not just your average hobbiest like me lol

Paul i honestly would have loved to have seen the difference in your physic had you ran this back when you were at your peek as i honestly think your body comp would have been even more impressive,even though it was unreal already lol

Glad its making you feel better and will deffo help with recovery after everything you've been through lately and ive never seen 10 x 4.5iU kits before only 100iU and 200iU kits but again theyre is that many companies lately producing this stuff its unreal.
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So for a full course, how much are we talking, Paul, Sned? I might treat myself for Christmas. If you geezers reccomend them for me, that is!

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Benni, you definately not diabetic are you?
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Originally Posted by Benni
So for a full course, how much are we talking, Paul, Sned? I might treat myself for Christmas. If you geezers reccomend them for me, that is!

Benni.
Too much tbh m8 as your a noob and wouldnt gain what experienced roid users gain so would be a waste of roughly Ł250 a month for 6 months and as chip said you aint diabetic are you? serious drop in insulan levels when using hgh hense why its such a good idea to run insulan alongside hgh and roids
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Cheers Paul, thats what my mates doing (2 ius) and he cant fault it! All his injurys from over the years have gone.

Sned, are you saying you should run insulin when doing steriods? Thats crazy! From my limited knowledge of insulin, take a little too much and its game over??

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Fuck me....... Dont touch Insulin, please!! Very good mate of mine died nearly 5 years ago from using insulin. If your not diabetic, dont touch!!

Big no is to run it along side HGH. Looked deep into this before I went on HGH, infact 2 weeks of research from GP's, One Bodybuilder who I cant mention as famous on the BB scene and certainley would not like me splashing about him using HGH, and Michele's friend, a Charge Nurse at Radcliffe and specialises in Diabetes said HGH does not upset the beta cells thus no need for Insulin, it can however upset a very small amount of people who already have Type 1 Diabetes, Type 2 is fine......plus internet research as did not want to be putting something in me that was going to react with any of my body functions...... I dont think about it for me, think about it for my 2 daughters as want them growing up with a Dad............. who is alive!!
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Originally Posted by smudgerz
Cheers Paul, thats what my mates doing (2 ius) and he cant fault it! All his injurys from over the years have gone.

Sned, are you saying you should run insulin when doing steriods? Thats crazy! From my limited knowledge of insulin, take a little too much and its game over??

Smudge
Yes alongside hgh and steds.ANY sted ran uncorrectly can be fatal end of and we all play with out lifes when we inject a foreign substance into our bodies end of.These risks i have tried to outline before but everybody seems to misshear what i'm saying

2iU's wont be that effective really unless ran for a very long time.natural body produces 1.5iU per night you sleep hense why you get tired when you inject it as your normal hgh start approx 2hrs after you fall into deep sleep.Most guys run 4iU's and work up to about 8iU's but i know a few guys who also are well known in the scene who run 20iU's per day alongside insulin or igf1 and preferable 17nor compunds not 19nor and theyre results are out of this world! but these guys sleep,breath and speak bodybuilding thats their life and income not a hobby
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Not questioning your knowledge mate, as you say, anything used irresponsibly can cause problems, but the "sides" from doing insulin are fatal and the margain for error is very small. I had a course of insulin years ago but never did it, just not worth the risk!!

Smudge
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Originally Posted by smudgerz
Not questioning your knowledge mate, as you say, anything used irresponsibly can cause problems, but the "sides" from doing insulin are fatal and the margain for error is very small. I had a course of insulin years ago but never did it, just not worth the risk!!

Smudge
I didnt mean to come accross as arguing for insulin just sayin that it can be used to very good effect alongside hgh and i totally agree with the 'sides' can and are fatal but the most dangerous med used in bodybuilding is dnp which has taken more peoples lifes than insulin or any other med for bodybuilders but again its down to lack of knowledge or respect for the product why people are doing themselves harm
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This is the HGH im on
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Thats the stuff I used to use Paul.

Struggle to get hold of it at the mo up here.
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May be way off the mark here but the two people I know that have used this developed huge chins? Dont know what else they are on so could be from something else but it is proper obvious that something isnt right, Roger Ramjet has nothing on them!!! Didnt I read that abnormal bone growth is a side of these aswell, like spikes on the elbow, or am I confusing this with something else???
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pics as i am curious like that and must say what a sensible attitude to have regards useing this stuff a bloke i worked with a few months back but and said it eas good but it sounded too good to be true but looks like good stuff!
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Originally Posted by Chip
Benni, you definately not diabetic are you?
Not that I am aware.

Benni.
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Originally Posted by StephenC
May be way off the mark here but the two people I know that have used this developed huge chins? Dont know what else they are on so could be from something else but it is proper obvious that something isnt right, Roger Ramjet has nothing on them!!! Didnt I read that abnormal bone growth is a side of these aswell, like spikes on the elbow, or am I confusing this with something else???
It doesnt cause it but if you have the gene then your deffo gona start noticing it as hgh will show it.Same with the myth of hgh gut where your insides were meant to grow and you ended up with bloated stomach cause your insides were ready to pop out of you alot of yth's surround hgh but some are true to an extent some areant

Ansomone is good stuff if its legit,not sayin its fake in any way shape or form but there is alot of fake stuff going around.best way to tell is the sore hands and feet and the mega swelling of them aswell which you should deffo still have at this moment if only started in sept
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Originally Posted by snedboy

Ansomone is good stuff if its legit,not sayin its fake in any way shape or form but there is alot of fake stuff going around.best way to tell is the sore hands and feet and the mega swelling of them aswell which you should deffo still have at this moment if only started in sept

Mine is dose related. HGH affects the Carpal tunnel in the wrist (CTS) and thus can cause slight ache in the hands. I found taking it to 8iu's after 3 days I was getting this side. Same as the other guys using it...... around 8-12iu's is when the sides start to show like CTS and aching jaw. I find keeping the dose at 4.5iu's im fine, not one side apart from great things, bodyfat loss, muscle hardness, feeling good etc etc.
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Done HGH before and i have to say theres a lot of poor information on this thread. 2 iu will do fuck all. I did 4 a day for 4 months and didnt really rate it. To get the best from GH you have to cycle it with roids or it doesnt work properly. Insulin also gets the very best out of it as insulin is THE MOST popent steroid on the planet if used correctly.
I reckon i couldve just dieted and tightened up more than i did after the 4 months i did. All the figures in Godz post at the top sound massively inflated. As for sides i had nothing serious apart from the usual tendom pains but you have to expect them.

Deffo not worth the money.
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Done HGH before and i have to say theres a lot of poor information on this thread. 2 iu will do fuck all. I did 4 a day for 4 months and didnt really rate it. To get the best from GH you have to cycle it with roids or it doesnt work properly. Insulin also gets the very best out of it as insulin is THE MOST popent steroid on the planet if used correctly.
I reckon i couldve just dieted and tightened up more than i did after the 4 months i did. All the figures in Godz post at the top sound massively inflated. As for sides i had nothing serious apart from the usual tendom pains but you have to expect them.

Deffo not worth the money.
Basically what im saying then
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When you guys look as good as me then I will take on board negative comments.

As for Insulin.......bollox.......fuckin horrible shit that if you aint diabetic, well will fuck you up and turn you diabetic. As for HGH not working..... I have been BB for years and its fuckin excellent stuff, if it aint working you have fakes.....simple.


BigErn You have used it to mate....... Top stuff!!
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Come on guys lets not turn this to shit.

I am personally interested in this thread and I don't wish to see it turn to crap. Paul, I have a lot of respect for your advice but lets leave the billy bigs nuts comments out mate, your better than that. You know the game, everyone has an opinion.
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Godzilla - what do you make of so called "Growth Gut" on the pros? Is this directly related to growth hormones in your opinion or is it the masses of food they eat combined with extreme carb loading/gear/everything else that goes with competing?

example; Ronnie



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Abdo bloat mate!!

Very common in heavy steroid stacks with high GI carb loading.

I have a pic but not of abs, my arm is ultra bloated in this pic due to heavy Androgenic stack and carb loaded.........



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Originally Posted by godzilla
Abdo bloat mate!!

Very common in heavy steroid stacks with high GI carb loading.

I have a pic but not of abs, my arm is ultra bloated in this pic due to heavy Androgenic stack and carb loaded.........



Not bad for a Woman like... That's one seriously big arm!! Can you PM me some more pictures, please? I wanna' compare myself. See how much bigger I am.

Benni.
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Thats one freaky arm, jesus!! Fair play
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Originally Posted by godzilla




Looking at you screams "Sted's" lol
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Originally Posted by godzilla
Abdo bloat mate!!

Very common in heavy steroid stacks with high GI carb loading.

I have a pic but not of abs, my arm is ultra bloated in this pic due to heavy Androgenic stack and carb loaded.........



Big fucking cannon that is. Impressive.
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i have a few mates who take growth and insulin and the results are stunning they say insulin is the best thing they have ever taken. very dangerous though
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Originally Posted by RUBY123
i have a few mates who take growth and insulin and the results are stunning they say insulin is the best thing they have ever taken. very dangerous though

He hates insulin as his good mate died from using it for bodybuilding. paul get some more pics up of urself or i will put them up, lol!

he will do his best to help anyone but is the worst bloke to upset, family connections are unreal and help out aswell, top bloke mate, love you in a non gay way, lol!
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Can you PM me some Richie? I've only ever see this and another one.

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Yeah come on Paul some more inspiration pics
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get more pics up.

would the hgh affect people in different ways,maybe thats why other peeps have different views.


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