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matman 11-09-2011 06:48 PM

Cosworth WRC header tank question......
 
does anybody know where I can get this fitting from??

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...si/fitting.jpg

qad 11-09-2011 10:41 PM

try burtons power mate, all the best

matman 12-09-2011 12:38 PM

Burtons dont sell it :(

ian sibbert 12-09-2011 04:04 PM

The valve you have circled is a port used to pressurise the coolant circuit, they are made the same dimensions as a tyre Schrader valve TR4, any machinist should be able to make one in alloy for welding to a header tank (as per your pic) or you could buy an aluminium valve from somewhere like Merlin motorsport or Demon Theives and mechanically couple it to the header tank on a flat surface.....

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html

kev 3dr 12-09-2011 04:07 PM

why not just use a bolt in competion tyre valve ?? like ian has but in link (doh whish id checked link first !!)

matman 12-09-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by ian sibbert (Post 5622857)
The valve you have circled is a port used to pressurise the coolant circuit, they are made the same dimensions as a tyre Schrader valve TR4, any machinist should be able to make one in alloy for welding to a header tank (as per your pic) or you could buy an aluminium valve from somewhere like Merlin motorsport or Demon Theives and mechanically couple it to the header tank on a flat surface.....

http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p1...duct_info.html



Thank you for clearing that up :D

What would be the benifit of pre-pressurising the water system?

I assumed at first it would be used to vent any air or to de-pressurise the system before removing the lid or even to measure the pressure in the system.

ian sibbert 12-09-2011 07:55 PM

Pressurizing the coolant allows the boiling temperature to increase and in turn improves the cooling efficiency....we run our system at 1.7 bar....

massivewangers 12-09-2011 07:58 PM

That's very interesting to know. How do you pressurise it? Just with a simple air line? I assume it's like a simple tyre valve type fitting?

J1mbo 12-09-2011 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by ian sibbert (Post 5623378)
Pressurizing the coolant allows the boiling temperature to increase and in turn improves the cooling efficiency....we run our system at 1.7 bar....

wow! Never knew that, pm on way Ian :king:

grcossie 12-09-2011 08:36 PM

My GGR tank, has this valve fitted

matman 12-09-2011 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by ian sibbert (Post 5623378)
Pressurizing the coolant allows the boiling temperature to increase and in turn improves the cooling efficiency....we run our system at 1.7 bar....

Ahhhhhhhh.

I remember that from my theory days at uni doing Mech Eng :D

I assume then that the expansion tank is filled to half level (or where appropiate) and then pressurised with air?

Do you set it to 1.7 bar by experiance or is it documented somwhere :)

matman 12-09-2011 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by grcossie (Post 5623472)
My GGR tank, has this valve fitted

any pics :D ??

ian sibbert 12-09-2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by matman (Post 5623521)
Ahhhhhhhh.

I remember that from my theory days at uni doing Mech Eng :D

I assume then that the expansion tank is filled to half level (or where appropiate) and then pressurised with air?

Do you set it to 1.7 bar by experiance or is it documented somwhere :)


Exactly, we bleed the system free of air and before competitive use pressurize with air...

It's gone on for many years in motorsport...there are other benefits...elimination of localised boiling etc etc.......

grcossie 13-09-2011 09:45 AM

Don`t have any pictures of it, but it`s the same as the red one here, (mine is blue) whit an conections
http://www.grahamgoode.com/frpua2.htm


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