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James Porter 27-02-2016 04:49 PM

RWD MK4 Escos
 
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Now I am certain most of you will no this car & at present I can take no credit for it. I was toying with the idea of building one for a long time but with my new buisness I just didn't have the time.

I read through a lot of resto's with great admiration & im hoping by me starting one of my own it'll motivate me more into getting it finished for early summer.

So after bending Billy's ear for a while we managed to sort a deal for me to take the car as a rolling shell, this way I could put my own mark on it & make it my own.

At present it sits like this in my workshop

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ps7cqnla7l.png

Looking abit sorry for itself but I've already been purchasing a few bits to get the build started...

This arrived yesterday from Belgium.... Big thanks to Bart :top:

Rebuilt 200 block

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psegrp41a9.jpg

On the stand now ready for a clean up

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The plan at them minute is to go for a full colour change, I like the colour now but I'm never going to get away from it being "that's Billy's car" (Sorry Bill :DD:) and doing it now while the car is mostly stripped would make a lot more sense.

I'll keep this updated as & when, hopefully be going in for paint in the next week or so..... Watch this space!

JP

James Porter 27-02-2016 04:57 PM

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Here's another photo I've just found on a set of Tarmacs kindly given to me by Stu20004x4....... Would appriciate it if you could drop the other 2 round now mate?

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stu20004x4 27-02-2016 05:06 PM

It does look damn sexy on them!

James Porter 27-02-2016 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by stu20004x4 (Post 6659508)
It does look damn sexy on them!


Defiantly looks better on this than that old taxi of yours :blabla:

stu20004x4 27-02-2016 05:37 PM

Gotta admit that they do lol

james kiely 27-02-2016 06:25 PM

Looking forward to your rebuild James.

Great car

James Porter 27-02-2016 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by james kiely (Post 6659534)
Looking forward to your rebuild James.

Great car


Thanks mate

Glenn_ 27-02-2016 07:18 PM

I do like a mk3/4 cossied escort.

Looks nice on them white 5 spokes.

xr2john 27-02-2016 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Glenn_ (Post 6659554)
I do like a mk3/4 cossied escort.

Looks nice on them white 5 spokes.

Surprised you never said they needed to be silver Glenn :cry::cry:

Will keep an eye on this :DD:

Billy_RS 27-02-2016 08:31 PM

Can't wait to see what the old girl turns out like James :top:

Look after her and keep this updated mate, we'll catch up at a few shows this year because you'll have it finished easily by then..... right?! :cry:

Bart 27-02-2016 09:53 PM

Going to be an animal!!
Love this car:)

Mk4 Rick 27-02-2016 10:02 PM

Lovely motor :DD:

James Porter 27-02-2016 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by Billy_RS (Post 6659582)
Can't wait to see what the old girl turns out like James :top:

Look after her and keep this updated mate, we'll catch up at a few shows this year because you'll have it finished easily by then..... right?! :cry:


Hopefully ;-)

visa_broke 28-02-2016 02:37 AM

Nice!

I did wonder about the car after seeing some bits come up for sale from it. Glad to see its being saved, i'd love another rs turbo let alone a cossied one.

Do it proud james, it looks good on the tarmacs

GINGExR2 T 28-02-2016 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by James Porter (Post 6659505)
Here's another photo I've just found on a set of Tarmacs kindly given to me by Stu20004x4....... Would appriciate it if you could drop the other 2 round now mate?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psm4t72dpk.jpg



They look nice on there mate, what width, off set and tire size are they, looks like they sit nicely inside the arch. Having a head ache with wheels for my one.


Ginger


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Twins 28-02-2016 09:31 AM

Good to see it getting rebuilt :-)

James Porter 28-02-2016 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by GINGExR2 T (Post 6659647)
They look nice on there mate, what width, off set and tire size are they, looks like they sit nicely inside the arch. Having a head ache with wheels for my one.


Ginger



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If I'm honest mate they are off a friends saph.

They sit well but think they'll rub under load... I'm sure they're 17x8 et42 with 205/40/17's.

I'm the same, as of yet I have no wheels lined up and from speaking with Billy anything wider than a 7.5" is a no go.

COLEYST200 28-02-2016 10:03 AM

Looks very nice keep the updates coming

GINGExR2 T 28-02-2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by James Porter (Post 6659661)
If I'm honest mate they are off a friends saph.

They sit well but think they'll rub under load... I'm sure they're 17x8 et42 with 205/40/17's.

I'm the same, as of yet I have no wheels lined up and from speaking with Billy anything wider than a 7.5" is a no go.


Cheers mate, it's the fronts that are the issue, the rear Sierra axle with standard Cossie wheels is only a few MM wider each side than a standard RS turbo, but the front Escort axle is narrower than the Escort rear by a good 10mm each side. the front Sierra is wider than the rear, so the front will stick out more, I've widened my arches by 25mm all round to help but it's still an issue I need to address. I really want an 8j 215 on the rear with a 7j 205 front.


Does yours run standard width axles front and rear???



Ginger


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James Porter 28-02-2016 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by GINGExR2 T (Post 6659697)
Cheers mate, it's the fronts that are the issue, the rear Sierra axle with standard Cossie wheels is only a few MM wider each side than a standard RS turbo, but the front Escort axle is narrower than the Escort rear by a good 10mm each side. the front Sierra is wider than the rear, so the front will stick out more, I've widened my arches by 25mm all round to help but it's still an issue I need to address. I really want an 8j 215 on the rear with a 7j 205 front.


Does yours run standard width axles front and rear???



Ginger

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As far as I know mate.

Billy was running et37 wheels 7j wide.

JP

James Porter 28-02-2016 04:24 PM

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Few small updates.

Started stripping out the rest of the parts under the bonnet ready for prepping

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Dash is out now as is the front part of the cage

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psqjat93c0.jpg

Tomorrow I will be removing the doors, boot & kit ready for some new colour.

Im working nights this week so all being well we should have this prepped & primed for next weekend!

Twins 28-02-2016 04:29 PM

Nice one ,what colour you going for

James Porter 28-02-2016 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Twins (Post 6659730)
Nice one ,what colour you going for


I'm staying tight lipped for now mate ;-)

Got 3 colours that it could possibly be & as of yet I'm still undecided!

James Porter 29-02-2016 01:57 PM

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Began stripping it ready for paint..... Hopefully I can remember how to put it back together!

Loom removed

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Engine bay stripped

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Fuel set up removed

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Doors off & glass or plastic out

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Found some rust on the O/S arch that will need replacing before paint

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Billy_RS 29-02-2016 02:54 PM

Jesus! James you ain't messing about :o

James Porter 29-02-2016 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Billy_RS (Post 6659910)
Jesus! James you ain't messing about :o


I can't mess about mate this needs to be ready for end of May !

Glenn_ 29-02-2016 04:25 PM

Shame about the rust matey. It wont take you long to sort it.

xr2john 29-02-2016 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by James Porter (Post 6659919)
I can't mess about mate this needs to be ready for end of May !

You'll be very busy for the next 3 months. Just think that's only 13 weeks :cry:

Can't wait to see it come together :top:

James Porter 29-02-2016 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Glenn_ (Post 6659930)
Shame about the rust matey. It wont take you long to sort it.


Going to cut it back tomorrow & see what needs doing, seems to be mainly the inner arch.

James Porter 29-02-2016 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by xr2john (Post 6659946)
You'll be very busy for the next 3 months. Just think that's only 13 weeks :cry:

Can't wait to see it come together :top:

Works well under way :top:

James Porter 29-02-2016 07:32 PM

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Small update on the colour.....

Now I've been playing with this idea in my head for a while but would commit until we'd tried it out.

We mixed a small amount of Jewel Violet L4 in solvent based paint & painted 1 of the wing mirror covers, not a perfect job but to see how it looked.

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As you can see there's a nice pearl purple in this when in good light but wasn't impressed when it was in shade it looked like a brown/dark magenta.

So we mixed some more, this time using water based & removed some of the red oxide from the mix & we got this!

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Again not a perfect Job but it give us a good idea.

I'm 99% sure this will be the colour.

Any thoughts!? Good or bad I can take it !!

fatboy billy 29-02-2016 07:35 PM

That's going to look the bollocks can't wait to see it done

xr2john 29-02-2016 07:57 PM

I really like the colour :-)

Go for it and get it painted.

Twins 29-02-2016 08:22 PM

2nd mix looks the nuts

James Porter 29-02-2016 09:09 PM

We still need to try a few samples on different colour primers.

We tried it straight over the grey that's it's painted in now then on a base white to see if it would pop more but wasn't much difference.

xr2john 29-02-2016 09:21 PM

I would go with the white base. When the full car is painted I think it would make a big difference to the colour on the larger panels. Would definetly look lighter. Your call tho :-)

James Porter 29-02-2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by xr2john (Post 6660055)
I would go with the white base. When the full car is painted I think it would make a big difference to the colour on the larger panels. Would definetly look lighter. Your call tho :-)


Yeah the painter said the same mate

xr2john 29-02-2016 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by James Porter (Post 6660060)
Yeah the painter said the same mate

So how long you reckon till shes got a fresh coat of paint on :bling:

James Porter 29-02-2016 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by xr2john (Post 6660068)
So how long you reckon till shes got a fresh coat of paint on :bling:


Hopefully within 2/3 weeks !

xr2john 01-03-2016 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by James Porter (Post 6660075)
Hopefully within 2/3 weeks !



Good stuff. Can't wait to see it done :DD:


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