Big Will_

Evening guys,

Well, after the thread about naming and shaming RS-ST Spares found here:
https://passionford.com/forum/genera...ml#post4934606

I never did receive the £75 refund that was promised in writing to me

I have had no reply to any of my attempts to contact Leigh Lush trading as RS-ST Spares and Paypal funnily enough "are not in a position to assist in transactions of this nature"

I'd pretty much given up on the whole thing until today when i took the sump of the engine i'd received...

Bearing in mind one of my initial complaints was regarding "excessive corrosion to the sump pan", I decided to change it today and upon removing the sump found this:





I picked a bit out to try and work out what it was:



And the honest answer is, I haven't a clue what it is

It isn't metallic that i can tell, certainley doesn't feel sharp or have any visible 'brightness' to it, nor is it magnetic.

It feels 'gritty' like its a very hard, very brittle plastic or similar.

However, having been sold the engine as "in great condition, I drove it in before removing it" with approx. 40,000 miles on, as you can imagine i'm not impressed.

I've not pursued stripping it any further as if I do take the legal action route (which I think is my only option now) then I suspect further examination will have to be done independantly.

Now, as I understand it, the Sale Of Goods act states that the product sold must meet a standard of satisfactory quality and be fit for purpose. As this engine has now been found (2 weeks after delivery and initial complaint) to fall below that standard, my understanding is that the seller must remedy this by repair or replacement.

Is there anything along the 'misrepresentation of goods' act that I can also use?

I will speak with my solicitor on Monday morning, but I suspect I need to send a letter before action to the seller stating the problems and give him 14 days to offer a solution prior to issuing small claims court proceedings?

Anyone know anything else that I should be aware of???

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

This is not good!

guy surely cant show his face on here can he, he has ruined his reputation and possibly business for £75.

He must be crazy!

botters

iTrader: (2)

it looks like congealed oil to me i see it a lot on bmw's when they have never had the oil changed its usually black smelly and rock hard!

scoooby slayer

iTrader: (4)

have i read this right that the engine cost £75 ?

TOMMY_RS

Well, after seeing this thread and the ohter, no way will i be using / recommending him

Ebonycossie4x4

iTrader: (4)

no there was bits broken and he asked for a small refund of 75 to cover it

TOMMY_RS

no he bought the engine for £500 and some thing, and then it had problems etc, and he promised to give him £75 back, some thing along them lines anyway

RONNIE AMIS

iTrader: (17)

that oil looks more than 40,000 miles old! it looks like syrup! let alone the stuff that is in it

dont blame you for not being happy mate

oibren85

i was interested in buying an engine and gearbox from them but not now, i'll remove the bookmarked page. Good luck hope you get it sorted.

Big Will_

No

I paid £575 for the engine, sold to me in 'full working order', but it was delivered a week late (with various poor excuses) and some of the ancilliaries were damaged.

I had opened a Paypal dispute for 'non receipt of item' and whilst it was open he promised to give me a partial refund of £75 to cover the broken bits and the mess around on delivery. He told me I needed to close the dispute to allow him use of his account to issue me the refund...

It never came

Big Will_

Interesting...

I guess i've been spoilt and only ever worked on engines that customers have cared about

Out of interest, what sort of mileage have they covered without oil changes for it to occur as the mileage of this engine 'seems' higher than the (two different!) figures i've been given...

Retro Al

iTrader: (1)

Fucking cunt, thats no way to run a business he wont be around for long with customer service like that,i was going to contact them about a st170 engine but i wont bother now

natehall

iTrader: (2)

surely oil in that condition would add wear to the engine as well!

so even if the engine has only done 50,000 miles, the wear may be like a 100,000 mile engine

scoooby slayer

iTrader: (4)

yet another scamming twat then. at least it wasnt a big spec ££££ yb lump mate.
if it is low mileage it definitly hasnt been serviced regular thats for sure by the state of the sump.

vaughant

iTrader: (1)

Looks like it's run quite hot to me too get the oil like that,or poss run on cheap shit oil that breaks down easily?

RONNIE AMIS

iTrader: (17)

oil looks as old as your skiddy pants

Dlatch!

looks like cheap shit oil thats been in there far too long to me

Big Will_

The engine was sold me with a 90 day warranty...

I imagine that would mean something if communication worked both ways

burnzy

atleast it's a clean sump , i'd also say thats gone along way without an oil change i'v cleaned 90,000 mile escort sumps that looked cleaner than that and that not even a proformance car that someone would look after properly, is the rocker cover just as bad as that'll also be very shitty by the looks of things.

did you not see that thread of the american bmw that did like 90,000 without a change or something like that it was in a right state

real shame to get stung but he's a very stupid seller to let the engine go to you i'm guessing through this forum as word like it already has will get around quickly that he's deffo not genuine.

hope it all gets sorted for you.

P.s isn't there a law where as he's a buisiness you'll have a 3 month warranty against it not being fit for purpose as it's like this with cars from dealers, esp as all sign's point to it not being as advertised

Big Will_

I've not taken the rocker cover off - i'm not touching it again now until i've had legal advice.

Although i'm very tempted to send some of the oil off for analysis and see if I can find out more...

I'm curious like that

burnzy

well the more info you get the better off you will be, if you have or no of someone that can analise it then i'd say deffo go for it, i'm sure it'll bring the truth out to condition of the engine.

curious is always best and trust no one till they prove themselves is all i say and even then you can get stung but it's they way i work, just a shame it's all happened really esp on a site thats supposed to be for enthusiasts .

will citizens advice be any good on this matter, anyhow i'm sure you'll have it all to hand soon enough and best of luck

dingla rs

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how many miles did you do in the 90days ,i would say on any engine you buy you should change the oil filter before you use it

Rab

That oil has started to break down. Must have been cheap oil, thats probably been in there far too long....

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

I don't think it even got near the car, as Will was not happy with it as soon as he recieved it

taz1787

iTrader: (8)

i got stung by them a while back but they wasn't trading on here as a trader not even a goldmember at the time iirc

said they had parts i needed send payment then only some parts arrived and letter

stating contact them for a part refund as they didn't have rest in stock

tried with no response too but it was only a few pounds

sorry to see other people are having worst trouble with them too

opposite lock

iTrader: (3)

shame you cant ring him and tell him your bringing back for exchange or money back if no joy there then proceed with your solicitor etc , being face to face could make it a damm site less stressfull and end up with a better engine , just my tuppence worth

Mike

Big Will_

Absolutely not. It's been on my engine crane for 2 weeks while I sorted out my end of year uni work and a family function. Today I put it on my engine stand and took the sump off...

Et voila.


Taz1787 - how did you pay for the parts? The reason I ask is that Paypal have said that if multiple complaints are made against someone that historic cases will be reopened and examined. I've filed a complaint against him this evening...

Big Will_

He is near Surrey, I'm near Blackpool... Sadly this clown has cost me enormous amounts of time so far, I don't plan on wasting any more.

My solicitor will be informed on Monday to issue a Letter Before Action after which he'll have 14 days to refund, repair or replace the engine or it'll be taken to the Small Claims Court.

Big Will_

Interestingly, I ran a similar thread on the Ford Focus Owners Club as that's another forum I know he trades on - few more unhappy people have stepped forward...

http://www.ffoc.co.uk/modules.php?na...topic&t=237201

Mr Whippy

http://www.theoillab.co.uk/?gclid=CP...FYts4wodMQ0hww

Get the oil from the sump tested, at least then you can produce results if it does go to court etc.

andy escos

iTrader: (1)

shit news will i hope you get it sorted mate is he still trading on here if so can the mods do some thing as this is piss poor service ,bordering on fraud

Glenn_

iTrader: (1)

i hope you get it sorted mate. When i first bought my cossie and found out it had a few problems with it. I got in touch with citizens advice about my car. They asked how old my car was and said that not much can be done due to the age of the car.

Big Will_

He seems to have 'vanished'

Oh well, no biggy, i've got both his home and his work addresses, guess it won't hurt to send one to both addresses!

rsfido_1989

i got 2 doors off him and was all good, lil dent so got some cash off. Not a problem seemed a genuine guy.

SiST

iTrader: (1)

Thats utter shit mate - I hope you get it all sorted out. Its never good taking things to court but sometimes needs must.

tabetha

That is lack of oil changes and cheap oil imo, the oil can no longer support any more carbon(the reason it gets changed, and the reason it goes black), so it accumulates in hard crystaline structures, totally normal, but boy do they do damage, we all know how strong carbon can be, would be interesting to see state of oil pump lobes, bet they're pitted to hell.
I would do as you suggested though, leave alone for an independant person to strip fully.
I've never seen a sump that bad before, best of luck to you anyway, and thanks for the heads-up, will save more people getting mugged off.
tabetha

Mr RS500

iTrader: (6)

Will

I doubt he would have given you a 90 day warranty ,, 30 days tops

Still , you still have a claim either way

Paul

pani_k

iTrader: (1)

For what you have planned for it Will, doesn't fill you with confidence it is going to last at all. Aren't you qualified to strip the engine and prepare a report yourself that will stand up or does it have to be independent?

Big Will_

I've still got the emails from him where I asked for clarification of ancilliaries it would come with and if there was warranty - his reply states "3 months" (which I read as 90 days).


Thanks, even if I get nowhere, if people read this post and save themselves being taken for a ride at least its served some use!


Pani, yes, professionally I am in a position to write a report documenting the damage and condition of the engine. However, if it does go to court then I suspect it won't hold up as it could be deemed biased. Therefore, to keep it impartial, I would prefer to pour what's left of the oil into a container and have the engine independantly stripped and inspected.

The bill for oil analysis and independant engineers report on the engine will of course be presented as part of the costs I will be seeking...

stebbo748

Will,
Sending PM now.

Regards Stebbo