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STAFFY OWNER 23-10-2014 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by XRT_si (Post 6530752)
I wanted to know what he did for a living! :cry:

He wasn't an old guy, early 40s I'd say. He was taking passengers out all day and generally being very polite, down to earth and nice to everyone that asked about his cars.

He also owned the 599 parked behind the 458.

So he'd got 4 Ferraris there, lucky man. I bet his collection would make Bonkers jealous (if Bonkers still has his collection???).

Fudgey 24-10-2014 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by STAFFY OWNER (Post 6530841)
Thanks for the reply mate, they're gorgeous cars.

They certainly are.
(i had to use google to tell you what they were tho :cry:)

Luca 24-10-2014 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by XRT_si (Post 6530752)
I wanted to know what he did for a living! :cry:

He wasn't an old guy, early 40s I'd say. He was taking passengers out all day and generally being very polite, down to earth and nice to everyone that asked about his cars.

He also owned the 599 parked behind the 458.


Bit of web stalking and its this guy :grin:

Matthew Munson and an IT whizz!

XRT_si 24-10-2014 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Luca (Post 6530981)
Bit of web stalking and its this guy :grin:

Matthew Munson and an IT whizz!

Well done, sir! :clap:

When I got home I tried a bit of Googling and got no where!

Defo him. And he's only 34! :shocked:

STAFFY OWNER 25-10-2014 12:18 PM

He's deffo not short of a few quid, see the link below:

http://m.insidehalton.com/news-story...unson-family-/

Rod-Tarry 25-10-2014 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6530754)
Rod I have to disagree I've been bruntingthorpe many times as I live in leicestershire and the run up around the bottom bend allways helps


Disagree you may but Topspeed running is my bag ;-). You need to gain 100m to get an extra second on the throttle at the bottom end so it makes no difference as speed gained at 200mph in 1 second is rather limited.
MikeR proved it years ago came hacking around the bottom bend best was a 180.3 run. Lined up from a standing start & set a then record of 180.9mph first time.
I agree it helps the clutch which is why we use the bend but much more efficiently than the Vmax boys do.

stevieturbo 25-10-2014 05:05 PM

That depends how hard the car is still accelerating in that 1 second. From GPS logs back in 2010 when I did mine at Woodbridge,

My car is well off the boil at that point, but even in the 1 second to 200mph, I gained 2mph.
ie 198mph to 200mph was 1 second.

Some cars still accelerating much harder would be gaining a lot more

In the 1 second prior to 190mph I gained a 3.9mph.

1 second prior to 180mph 4.6mph

Datalogs from this year at Elvington, car going much better, but still room for improvement
It was only 1km, so will only sue the 180mph time and 1 second prior it was 7.1mph gained in 1 second and covering 78m

So every little bit of extra distance and time does matter.

turnover 25-10-2014 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry (Post 6531315)
Disagree you may but Topspeed running is my bag ;-). You need to gain 100m to get an extra second on the throttle at the bottom end so it makes no difference as speed gained at 200mph in 1 second is rather limited.
MikeR proved it years ago came hacking around the bottom bend best was a 180.3 run. Lined up from a standing start & set a then record of 180.9mph first time.
I agree it helps the clutch which is why we use the bend but much more efficiently than the Vmax boys do.

Rod I'm not going to have a debate with you ,But you can't really be stood still and at that point say gain a minimum of say 50 to 60 mph from the starting point and be slower top speed

foreigneRS 29-10-2014 06:52 PM

if you go from a standing start you can start further back than the point at which you come around the bend and join the straight - it's perfectly feasible that you can accelerate to or beyond the speed at which you come off the bend in that distance.

Rod-Tarry 29-10-2014 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by foreigneRS (Post 6532590)
if you go from a standing start you can start further back than the point at which you come around the bend and join the straight - it's perfectly feasible that you can accelerate to or beyond the speed at which you come off the bend in that distance.

You got it that's what can happen but with so many Topspeed experts on this thread its a waste of time telling them because they know everything ;-).
Only been my interest for 15 years what the hell do I know :cry:.

stevecfrst1 29-10-2014 08:41 PM

Are you planning to do v max when your car is back together rod?

foreigneRS 30-10-2014 11:22 AM

i've only been there for a single top speed event, but that was bloody obvious

Caddyshack 30-10-2014 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by foreigneRS (Post 6532770)
i've only been there for a single top speed event, but that was bloody obvious

Only once pointed out.

I have been there for a drift day and it only became obvious once I was reminded that you start further back from the standing start. If not then the corner would give an advantage if it allowed you to be at a higher speed than crossing the same point at a standing start.

The corners are quite open and we were able to slide the car at over 100mph (Track prepped 911 on road tryes) but the expansion gaps tore the tyres and the paint work suffered.

RS Grant 30-10-2014 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Caddyshack (Post 6532809)
The corners are quite open and we were able to slide the car at over 100mph (Track prepped 911 on road tryes) but the expansion gaps tore the tyres and the paint work suffered.

Haha, certainly not one of the best things to do en-route to speeds of 200+ is it. :cry:


Cheers,
Grant

Caddyshack 30-10-2014 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by RS Grant (Post 6532811)
Haha, certainly not one of the best things to do en-route to speeds of 200+ is it. :cry:


Cheers,
Grant

Well to be fair we were provoking lots of sideways stuff...I certainly would not do that on the way to 200 mph and my porker was pretty much all said and done by about 150mph on the best runs

turnover 30-10-2014 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Rod-Tarry (Post 6532595)
You got it that's what can happen but with so many Topspeed experts on this thread its a waste of time telling them because they know everything ;-).
Only been my interest for 15 years what the hell do I know :cry:.

Well if your such an expert Rod ,I suggest you fit a descent clutch so you can do a standing start if that's going to make you faster top end,oh wait you've got around 800 hp and nos surely the clutch can't be that bad then,strange why you'd do a rolling start then?

Caddyshack 30-10-2014 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6532852)
Well if your such an expert Rod ,I suggest you fit a descent clutch so you can do a standing start if that's going to make you faster top end,oh wait you've got around 800 hp and nos surely the clutch can't be that bad then,strange why you'd do a rolling start then?

Isn't a rolling start just for mechanical sympathy? Why blow a record attempt on such an abrupt launch when you do not need to? Don't all of the bonneville salt flat racers get a push start to aid the long gearing and to help the clutch?

I used to love the launch starts on rally cross though...it is amazing they didn't break more often all those years ago with so much power. I think Will Gollop was around 2.5 seconds to 60 or something daft.

stevieturbo 30-10-2014 07:47 PM

I guess it depends what you're classing as a record.

Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc

But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.

Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol

That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.

Caddyshack 30-10-2014 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 6532892)
I guess it depends what you're classing as a record.

Fastest speed over unlimited distance ? fixed distance ? a proper recognised benchmark, ie standing mile etc etc

But a lot of guys dont like launching their cars. It isnt just the clutch, it's the entire drivetrain.

Hence the 30-130 and even in the US a lot will do rolling 1/2 mile events now as well, or I think some of them like 60-130, which is a pretty short stat. Anything with decent power would still have no traction there anyway on an airfield lol

That said, if you're on airfield where most of this shit takes place, I can't see how you'd ever have so much traction at launch the drivetrain would be at risk in the first place.

Aren't air field rough, high grip to help planes stop or are they poor quality?

foreigneRS 30-10-2014 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6532852)
I suggest you fit a descent clutch

does that help when going downhill?

ajamesc 30-10-2014 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6532852)
Well if your such an expert Rod ,I suggest you fit a descent clutch so you can do a standing start if that's going to make you faster top end,oh wait you've got around 800 hp and nos surely the clutch can't be that bad then,strange why you'd do a rolling start then?

maybe it's got some thing too do with the fact a rwd 800+ bhp Sierra will just spin it's nuts off in 1st 2nd and 3rd :roll:

turnover 31-10-2014 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by ajamesc (Post 6533037)
maybe it's got some thing too do with the fact a rwd 800+ bhp Sierra will just spin it's nuts off in 1st 2nd and 3rd :roll:

Does that mean your saying with a rolling start you will get faster top speed lol

turnover 31-10-2014 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by foreigneRS (Post 6533008)
does that help when going downhill?

Very observant,I can't help the ipad predicted spelling and didn't read it back,but you knew what it ment Mr English

J1mbo 31-10-2014 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by ajamesc (Post 6533037)
maybe it's got some thing too do with the fact a rwd 800+ bhp Sierra will just spin it's nuts off in 1st 2nd and 3rd :roll:

Rod says his car gives full traction in 2nd gear :king:

ajamesc 31-10-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6533041)
Does that mean your saying with a rolling start you will get faster top speed lol

No not at all you were saying fit a better clutch and do a standing start. Was just saying he no doubt starts with a little mechanical sympathy so not to brake something

Caddyshack 31-10-2014 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by foreigneRS (Post 6533008)
does that help when going downhill?


Lol, well spotted and good reply:top:

stevieturbo 31-10-2014 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Caddyshack (Post 6532931)
Aren't air field rough, high grip to help planes stop or are they poor quality?

Airfields may be rougher than typical roads, but they have anything but good traction, well for 2wd cars anyway.

Even at 180mph at TOTB mine was still breaking traction.

Oddly, with Hoosiers at 20psi, I had to abort 2 runs around 170mph as I had no grip whatseover, could barely even touch the throttle.

888's worked better, just barely hanging on in 5th gear, but they still let go a little around 180mph.

Caddyshack 31-10-2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by stevieturbo (Post 6533150)
Airfields may be rougher than typical roads, but they have anything but good traction, well for 2wd cars anyway.

Even at 180mph at TOTB mine was still breaking traction.

Oddly, with Hoosiers at 20psi, I had to abort 2 runs around 170mph as I had no grip whatseover, could barely even touch the throttle.

888's worked better, just barely hanging on in 5th gear, but they still let go a little around 180mph.

Blimey....that is pretty scary!

My friend took his Mac F1 to brunters and did not break 200 mph. He had the full Maclaren support package with him. He has since acheived the highest customer recorded speed though on an autobahn.

turnover 31-10-2014 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by J1mbo (Post 6533045)
Rod says his car gives full traction in 2nd gear :king:

Rod says a lot of things jimbo ,it's just wether you believe them or not,but I think you allready know that lol

Jay, 31-10-2014 05:22 PM

You were starting to look stupid and then confirmed it with that comment:cry::cry::cry:



Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6533172)
Rod says a lot of things jimbo ,it's just wether you believe them or not,but I think you allready know that lol


turnover 31-10-2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Jay, (Post 6533180)
You were starting to look stupid and then confirmed it with that comment:cry::cry::cry:

Really !!! i don't think so

Jay, 31-10-2014 05:50 PM

Come on then Mr know all fuck all what lies has Rod told ?

J1mbo 31-10-2014 06:18 PM

:cry:
Rod says what he has read, learnt or told. It's only opinions I guess and we all have different ones, I wouldn't call him a liar. :D

Fullflush 31-10-2014 06:38 PM

Being wrong and a liar are two different things with the same result.

Caddyshack 31-10-2014 08:46 PM

What an odd thread.!

Jay, 31-10-2014 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Fullflush (Post 6533207)
Being wrong and a liar are two different things with the same result.


Yes true but the later being quite insulting



Originally Posted by Caddyshack (Post 6533239)
What an odd thread.!

And you sound surprised it is pf :cry::cry::cry::cry:

turnover 31-10-2014 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jay, (Post 6533188)
Come on then Mr know all fuck all what lies has Rod told ?

Jay are you married to Rod as you seem very defensive ,Opinions we all have them ,believe what you want

Jay, 31-10-2014 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by turnover (Post 6533321)
Jay are you married to Rod as you seem very defensive ,Opinions we all have them ,believe what you want

And that's your only come back LOL brilliant ! Come on explain why he is a liar seeing as you're so quick to call him that

Caddyshack 01-11-2014 11:06 AM

Rod has only ever seemed nice, genuine and honest when I have seen him on here, he is a nice bloke to talk to and is certainly an asset to this forum as he regularly posts....oh and he did get the record so I too find the comments a little insulting.

ajamesc 01-11-2014 11:28 AM

Rod will always have haters lol and I don't think it really bothers him. One thing is for sure there hate even more come next year when his old boat sets new records and moves the goal posts yet again :ban-split:


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