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Old 14-09-2004 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
But they didnt need to put a good fuel pump in as std for the touring cars doug, wasnt part of GrpA homologation rules, if thats what your getting at?
I'm not a 100% sure on this but, a full year before Group a (i.e. the Group A cars were the homolagated RS500's) the Ford attack on the then dominent BMW's was based on the original 3DR (pre RS500 spec) cars......these were more or less "production saloon" cars so a lot of major parts could not be changed relative to the road cars that they were based on.

Like I said - not 100% sure about the fuel pumps
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Nice one. What are these external gravity fed pumps like compared to a submerged in-tank one? Are they more noisy?
Not really IMO.
They are also more bloody reliable. Admit it.. thats a fooking impressive fuel pump
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Old 14-09-2004 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Oh aye, i get ya
Believe me when i say that 90% of tuners dont know that Steve, so dont worry....

Ive seen the twats working out fuel flow...


"blah blah.. injectors... 3bar.. 120lph, blah blah, 2 bar boost too... so about 200lph now.. cool, they will do nicely"









BOOM....

"Fook..blah blah... strange.. blah, ran lean.. blah blah"


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Old 14-09-2004 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Anh
Nice one. What are these external gravity fed pumps like compared to a submerged in-tank one? Are they more noisy?
Not really IMO.
They are also more bloody reliable. Admit it.. thats a fooking impressive fuel pump
Yeah, especially used on a 15 year old design. Pretty good.
Old 14-09-2004 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
Oh aye, i get ya
Believe me when i say that 90% of tuners dont know that Steve, so dont worry....

Ive seen the twats working out fuel flow...


"blah blah.. injectors... 3bar.. 120lph, blah blah, 2 bar boost too... so about 200lph now.. cool, they will do nicely"



BOOM....

"Fook..blah blah... strange.. blah, ran lean.. blah blah"


Twats

ItsMeAgain....It's the pressure differential between the rail and manifold/ intake port pressure that's important. The standard method for rating injectors is 3 bar. 43.5 psi. That's assuming that fuel pressure must be 30 psi above maximum manifold pressure of 14.5 psi for attain the flow rate of the injector. A 1:1 rising regulator is used with forced induction engines, every extra psi of boost in the manifold, the regulator will increase pressure in the rail by 1 psi.
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Note that shes heavy on current though... a failing of many cosworth engines..

Tatty 15yr old wiring and a 14amp fuel pump load has very often ran the old YB into detonation and then done the same to the new engine.. helping her to attain unreliability status.. (along with the scoobs there, im back on topic )
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Originally Posted by Anh
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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Oh aye, i get ya
Believe me when i say that 90% of tuners dont know that Steve, so dont worry....

Ive seen the twats working out fuel flow...


"blah blah.. injectors... 3bar.. 120lph, blah blah, 2 bar boost too... so about 200lph now.. cool, they will do nicely"



BOOM....

"Fook..blah blah... strange.. blah, ran lean.. blah blah"


Twats

ItsMeAgain....It's the pressure differential between the rail and manifold/ intake port pressure that's important. The standard method for rating injectors is 3 bar. 43.5 psi. That's assuming that fuel pressure must be 30 psi above maximum manifold pressure of 14.5 psi for attain the flow rate of the injector. A 1:1 rising regulator is used with forced induction engines, every extra psi of boost in the manifold, the regulator will increase pressure in the rail by 1 psi.
Im glad you were listening at the back
Old 14-09-2004 | 12:20 AM
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anh - do you have a little wee fuel pump in a cage by the side of your bed that you pet every night before you close your eyes??

or is it your specialist subject in your preparation for mastermind?!
Old 14-09-2004 | 06:53 AM
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Ahhh I love a good RS VS Scooby debate.

In my old car I would stay with most of the scoobies I found on the road, I have no idea what they are or were as I aint that much of an anorak to know the diff between a 95 car, a 99 car or a fuckin spaceship for that matter- although I do have a feeling one is quite quick.
So the old car only had about 170-180 bhp on a good day.

The new car however is a different world.
Anh may I first draw your attention to this.http://adamjenkins.users.btopenworld...bhpscooby.mpeg 4.5mb

That would be the previous owner of my car in 256bhp spec destroying a scooby at the hallow'd pod and although Bellends camera work aint the best the launch for the scooby clearly isn't that much quicker. (4wd PAH!)

Now the car is in 300bhp mode with a bigger turbo cant even imagine what it will do to poor jap crap.

I shall also point to the fact if I blow it up it costs less to build and the car its self cost less to build than most scoobies.

As for the twisties scoobies are so famed for.. That the best you guys can do.

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Old 14-09-2004 | 01:11 PM
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Thing is most scoobies are standard uk cars, it's rare to see a standard cossie. Of course you'll win. They're driven daily by a lot of people who just like a little bit of power now and again, and probably can't drive that well.

There is a lot that have fallen into the lax power brigade , but still have no real power.

There is probably less tuned scoobs about than cossies, and if you meet one like mine you'd better have some serious horses

Ahn what's the point of arguing every time someone says 'left' I thought it was quite funny how you were taking on an entire forum yourself, but chill out and take some (strong) drugs.
Old 14-09-2004 | 01:13 PM
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i cant be arsed to read the whole thread,,! so whats the lowdown?
Old 14-09-2004 | 01:15 PM
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This Happened

Old 14-09-2004 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SassyRS
i cant be arsed to read the whole thread,,! so whats the lowdown?
Me and AlexD did this

Which lead to this.......lol

Old 14-09-2004 | 01:28 PM
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6 pages of arguing lol .. You guys beat the tread at the scoobyforum
Old 14-09-2004 | 01:50 PM
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I thought this was finished ages ago!!

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6 pages of arguing lol .. You guys beat the tread at the scoobyforum
Erm no, thats on 13 pages and counting
Old 14-09-2004 | 02:13 PM
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killing me scooby so softly, killing him softly and gentil, killing them pistons, them pistons, them pistons...
was driving along the nearby, seen some smoke coming upfront, first thought was; ooohhh dear shit happens, shit happens, shit happens....
but there goes my scooby, my scooby, up in smoke and me i don't like this, don't like this, don't like this at all...
gonna buy me a nice cossie, that's realy a much better car, that doesn't eat any pistons, any pistons, any pistons, oooohhhh me bloody pistons...


PS; you realy need the lyrics from Refugees "Killing me softly" when singing this song

Old 14-09-2004 | 02:18 PM
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oh, i see!

I must admit i love the P1...., and i have a 4x4 saff cos, but would love a P1

That slayers pic is well funny tho,,
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