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killa_paul 24-03-2019 11:46 AM

cosworth battery
 
So im looking for a replacement decent battery,
the battery i have has lasted about 4 years but because of the alarm and little use it is always going flat.
i have now got to the point where the battery is completly falt after two days and wont fully charge or hold charge this is with an optimate connected .
obviousley i have a clifford ca1 1 alarm and tracker fitted to the car but it seems the current drawn from the alarm is more the the optimate can now keep up with as the battery is so low.
ive tried new acid and water in the battery but its had it.
what are the best heavey duty batteries for the replacement .
its a 2wd sapphire any idea what the bigest battery would fit and how many amp hrs it is,
what batteries do you recomend .. the car doesent get used much atm but will be out in the summer
thanks in advanced

Mad_Mat 24-03-2019 02:56 PM

Do you want original style flat post or round?

Mad_Mat 24-03-2019 03:00 PM

If original flat post style options are limited.
numax from eBay etc or lion from euro car parts.
I got the lion from euro car parts about £41 with a 50% discount code. Working well with no issues but I also use an isolator when left for extended periods.

bigdel 24-03-2019 05:26 PM

I have Lion on mine. Not quite as much space for the accessory take off plate that goes over the +ve terminal so had to shave a bit off the terminal to make it fit. Other than that, all good.
I've stripped off all the Lion branding too with the intention of replacing them with a set of Ford graphics, but haven't got round to that yet

killa_paul 24-03-2019 06:59 PM

not fussed on round or flat posts

martysmartie 25-03-2019 09:47 AM

It's tight with the standard, so don't think you could go much larger.

Even with what you mention, I don't believe the draw would be that great, around half an amp (i.e. 500 Ma) I should imagine, which the charger should have no issue with.

@bigdel yes I have noticed this, with the positive and filed the terminal slightly to get the plate to sit.

I have a Tayna.

Martin

Mad_Mat 25-03-2019 10:21 AM

Just had a quick check and the lion is £41.50 from ecp with code sale55.
if your killa - ing them regularly go with the cheap option mate.

bigdel 25-03-2019 11:18 AM

Whatever you decide to do, once the new battery is fitted, get yourself a CTEK battery conditioner and leave it connected all the time the car is standing idle (especially for long periods), a constant low drain on the battery will kill it very quickly unless you keep the charge up by some external means
I used to kill a battery every winter whilst the car was laid up. Bought a CTEK about 10 years ago and the same battery lasted until last year when I put the car into storage over winter and forgot to give the storage place my CTEK. It came out of storage and the battery was goosed. By that time, Ford had stopped making the flat terminal batteries so had to get a replacement elsewhere

cossynut2 28-03-2019 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by martysmartie (Post 6792159)
It's tight with the standard, so don't think you could go much larger.

Even with what you mention, I don't believe the draw would be that great, around half an amp (i.e. 500 Ma) I should imagine, which the charger should have no issue with.

@bigdel yes I have noticed this, with the positive and filed the terminal slightly to get the plate to sit.

I have a Tayna.

Martin

I have the flat post Tanya on my 2wd Saff. Took the japanese Rising Sun flag sticker off and replaced it with Ford Motorcraft sticker so it looks like original Ford fitment.

martysmartie 31-03-2019 12:35 PM

Remember you mentioned that in another thread, good idea :)

Incidentally after 16 years I've just replaced a Motorcraft battery, so think I got my money's worth :cry:

Martin

cossynut2 31-03-2019 05:28 PM

You certainly had good service from your Motorcraft battery, most don't last that long.

qed296 31-03-2019 06:19 PM

Did mine aswell, flat post from andrew pages....£40 i think....decals from dmb

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...c458cc7c11.jpg

martysmartie 31-03-2019 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by cossynut2 (Post 6792467)
You certainly had good service from your Motorcraft battery, most don't last that long.

It sure did, from my first/daily car.


Originally Posted by qed296 (Post 6792473)
Did mine aswell, flat post from andrew pages....£40 i think....decals from dmb

You handing off to a junction, just the one cable?

Martin


qed296 31-03-2019 07:53 PM

Yeah, made a massive improvement to starting, window operation etc etc....i dis replace the cable with new

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...c3cfeac41b.jpg

cossynut2 01-04-2019 03:37 PM

What is the round metal dish for next to your battery?

qed296 01-04-2019 04:11 PM

Extra horn.

tosh 01-04-2019 05:45 PM

Totally off topic but did all sapph’s have a rubber seal on the bottom of the plastic schuttle panel? Not noticed that before.

cossynut2 02-04-2019 08:12 AM

Yes, it is on all Saff's. Weather seal for the back of the bonnet.

tosh 02-04-2019 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by cossynut2 (Post 6792547)
Yes, it is on all Saff's. Weather seal for the back of the bonnet.

Thanks :thumbup: time I start shopping then but have never seen them.

Apologies to the op for interrupting his thread but I had to ask.

killa_paul 04-04-2019 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by bigdel (Post 6792166)
Whatever you decide to do, once the new battery is fitted, get yourself a CTEK battery conditioner and leave it connected all the time the car is standing idle (especially for long periods), a constant low drain on the battery will kill it very quickly unless you keep the charge up by some external means
I used to kill a battery every winter whilst the car was laid up. Bought a CTEK about 10 years ago and the same battery lasted until last year when I put the car into storage over winter and forgot to give the storage place my CTEK. It came out of storage and the battery was goosed. By that time, Ford had stopped making the flat terminal batteries so had to get a replacement elsewhere

as stated previous i have an optimate connected on the battery but its still dead . although it was a halfords battery

cossynut2 04-04-2019 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by bigdel (Post 6792166)
Whatever you decide to do, once the new battery is fitted, get yourself a CTEK battery conditioner and leave it connected all the time the car is standing idle (especially for long periods), a constant low drain on the battery will kill it very quickly unless you keep the charge up by some external means
I used to kill a battery every winter whilst the car was laid up. Bought a CTEK about 10 years ago and the same battery lasted until last year when I put the car into storage over winter and forgot to give the storage place my CTEK. It came out of storage and the battery was goosed. By that time, Ford had stopped making the flat terminal batteries so had to get a replacement elsewhere

I have fitted a solar powered trickle charger that has quite a big solar panel on the roof of my garage and the wire comes inside to connect up and I find providing we get some sunny days it keeps the battery topped up ok. Before I fitted it up it was a pain in the ass as with the drain of the immobiliser 9 times out of 10 the battery was flat when I wanted to take it out and it had to be jump started.

Jules44 07-04-2019 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by qed296 (Post 6792473)
Did mine aswell, flat post from andrew pages....£40 i think....decals from dmb

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...c458cc7c11.jpg

where is the rest of the wires?

qed296 07-04-2019 08:59 PM

8 posts up

Jules44 22-04-2019 07:24 AM

So what did you use and where from?

qed296 22-04-2019 07:31 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...f310d4caed.jpg

12v/24v terminal block from ebay


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