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Charge cooler updated cooling
Hi allthanks for advice on oil consumption have another question! my cossie has additional radiator that is connected to a 12v pump that has its own header tank and pumps through the charge cooler as a heat exchanger, it’s a completely independent system. my question is does anyone else have a similar system and when does it run as I’ve never seen it running and unable to catch it when fans run I’m always too slow! I suspect its it’s linked to the fans of the normal rad and cuts in and out with that or perhaps it’s stopped working all together? will be digging my multimeter out at some point but have a 2 yr old little girl so never have any time for anything! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...c4489ad31.jpegSays oil pump but it’s definitely water going through it https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...17871bd97.jpegHeader thank with no expansion but should never be more than Luke warm in my opinion anyway https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/passion...fc482db1e.jpegThat’s the top of the charge cooler intake the exit is below and goes back to the independent radiator |
Never seen or heard of such a strange set up on a YB engine.
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
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Never seen or heard of such a strange set up on a YB engine.
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Originally Posted by Russ6334
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its not that strange a set up it’s common in the marine industry, you basically have a heat exchanger and run cold water through it to allow the charged air to be cooled prior to going to the engine meaning you increase the density of the air it’s no different to an air cooler except this gives better cooling Mark |
Originally Posted by Mark Shead
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the unit on the yb is to small so I would bin it. Mark im happy with the system I’ve used them in marine applications I know they work just want to know if it’s on the radiator switch? |
Blimey I have not see a charge cooler on a cossie for years.
I know that some escort cosworths came with them as std and they was built into the std intercooler on the hot side. Personally as Mark has said I would bin it and fit a 500 type intercooler from Airtec or if going for more power in the future Pro alloy or Spec r. Charge cooling is great in certain applications but not really for a road going car. The system will be less cluttered and your temps will be less, also you have removed a restriction. I would deal with one issue at a time or take it to a person who specialises in these. IT will save you time and money. Paul |
Originally Posted by Russ6334
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what is too small? im happy with the system I’ve used them in marine applications I know they work just want to know if it’s on the radiator switch? Mark |
Agree with mark
I worked at pace and tested them on my car years ago ( 1999) And they don't work A 500 cooler works far better The charge cooler is to small And it should be running all the time But a charge cooler on a rst or r5 worked Well because they where 3 times the size There more for cars where space is a issue |
But back to the original question when does the pump kick in, should it be on with ignition or on when radiator fan kicks in |
Originally Posted by Russ6334
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But back to the original question when does the pump kick in, should it be on with ignition or on when radiator fan kicks in Mark |
Must be on boost then as it’s never on will have to fit it to pipe out the side of the bonnet to see if it sprays out then i suspect it’s not working though it is fitted to a relay so switch makes sense |
As others have said fit a large intercooler,decent alloy radiator and a pre-turbo cooler in place of it and you should have no issues with cooling and a much less complicated and cluttered engine bay.
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Originally Posted by cossynut2
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As others have said fit a large intercooler,decent alloy radiator and a pre-turbo cooler in place of it and you should have no issues with cooling and a much less complicated and cluttered engine bay.
Tried tested and works well and what i and many others run. On the other hand.. If you can get your charge cooler setup working well so the heat exchanger keeps temps down when your booting it then at least it would be different to the norm and i like that. Makes a good talking point when you pop the bonnet. :top: |
I don’t think I mentioned this is additional to a large alloy intercooler as well |
Originally Posted by Russ6334
(Post 6774146)
I don’t think I mentioned this is additional to a large alloy intercooler as well |
A mate of mine got this kind of setup on an escos many years ago
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I measured the pump and it’s down to earth so ordered a new one hopefully won’t have to worry where the signal comes from with a new one! It should just work! |
Well fitted a bigger one and still doesn’t work on ignition, as it’s a heat exchanger I would expect t to work with ignition to ensure optimum cooling effect! anyone have one or know somebody with one, where does it switch from! thanks |
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