saff cossie rear suspension arm bushes
 

Should i be able to move the standard bushes in the trailing arms around with my fingers on a saff cossie 4x4.

No not atall mate.

I didnt think so.I got told when i was enquiring about the arms that the bushes were good in the arms thats why i bought them

If i hold the bush like this i can move it it about.The bushes arnt solid.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k.../Bushes1-1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...08/Bushes2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...08/Bushes3.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/k...08/Bushes4.jpg

You can see in the pick how the bushes are moving.

that bush looks fucked mate

but, in all honesty, the metal tube should be able to move in and out if it's a poly version

if it's the normal ford bush though it's all part of the same fitting and if it's moving the bush is well and truly shot

Great i got told the bushes were good thats why i bought the arms.I might give him a ring n see what he says.

There just standard bushes.I was gonna get some poly bushes but a few people said they were poo.At least they wont move about like these bushes do.

I never put poly in mine for that reason, apparently it makes the ride shit!
I put poly bushes in the beam mounts.

Makes the ride shit... Its 20 year old suspension with 18 inch wheels on at the mo lol.Ive spoke to a few people who have poly bushes in theres and they say there cars drive ok.

HAHA, like it.
Suppose its personal preference. I went on what a few people had said so i took a gamble.

Poly bushes are fine in mine tbh.

they are bearings as standard, so the tube should rotate.

poly bushes do make them feel funny, though

Glenn ive deffo got 2 good 2nd hand std bushes, may have a full set will have to check or ive got a set of new poly ones. You can have either, pop down the garage on sat if you have chance and ill see what I have for you.

Even new the std Ford bushes do have a little give in them, they are a spherical bearing inside.

the poly ones were fine on all mine

you should really change the diff mount to get the most out of them though :)

Cheers mate. I keep meaning to pop down to the garage but i always seem to be working or busy doing other things.

Does changing the diff hanger make that much if a difference.

Tell me about it mate all I seem to be doing latley is working lol. I will be down all day sat if you get chance, you still aint seen mine since its been painted have you?

Yeh they do rotate. Ive had a pair of grips on them and they turn/spin.

It gets on my tits workin all the time but the money is good and ive paid all my debt off now.

Will have a word with Fiddy and see if he fancys a drive out on saturday afternoon.I will let you know.

They should rotate/turn, but they should not have ANY play from left to right.

I have also tried the poly bushes, but I'm now back at the original spherical bearings, drives much better IMO.

Think the consensus is original are better than polly being spherical bearing but obviously poly are better than standard fucked ones!!! Plus it's near on £320 for new standard ones!!

I managed to get all 4 new in the ford packets off ebay the other week for £100 was well happy.

GGR are a very good replacement but exspensive

Paul was that just a lucky random auction?!

In a word - Yes.

How easy are they to change, just curious? Didn't know if they had to be pressed in, or the poly ones came in two halves?

Poly bushes are in 2 halfs. They have a metal sleeve in the middle too.

That might be my next mod after i get these arms/bushes sorted.

Bloody bargain that.I would defo of paid a 100 quid for all 4.

The outer part is just a dust cover/seal if you like - i removed mine cleaned regreased and fitted new oil seals and they are tight - they are meant to move around - info in my build thread regarding seals and numbers

Easier to fit too, I assume?
(Im guessing std ones need pressing in?)

the poly ones that come in one peice just need to be popped into position

pop the old one out, make sure the beam is resting nicely on the jack but with enough space between the dropped beam and the chassis to insert a large socket, then jack the beam up to meet the socket and it "should" pop out
if it doesn't then you simply bounce up and down in the car until it does :)

when you put the new one in again, jack the bush into the beam slot, just make sure you put the copper grease around the top of the bush and it will pop in again

job done

I will have a look at it now matey.

That is how to do the big mushroom type bushes for the rear beam, not the bushes in the arms. ;-)

Aye mate they were listed on a buy it now, jumped on them straight away :top:

I thought the big ones needed a press, glad they don't as I expect mine are shagged too!? How do the arm bushes fit then?

Im sure the poly bushes for the trailing arms come in 2 pieces with a metal sleeve in the middle.

Cool, so similar to a TCA bush? ;)

Glenn hold your horses you are been given some missinformed advice here (im choosing my words carefully!)

some guys have picked up on it but others haven't but the cossie rear trailing arm bushes are a spherical metal bush what you see on the outside is just a dust cover. if the bush moves up or down (holding both sides with ya fingers) or in and out on both sides then yes it's tired, if it moves opposite each other then it's fine.

changing them to poly bushes is a backward step totally...Metal doesn't move or compress plastic,rubber etc does
Anyone taking good std bushes out and putting poly ones in are daft!

I have poly bushes in my race car only because the XR4x4 comes with std rubber bushes not the sperical like the cosworth..

to recap them bushes might not be knackered!

*edit *

found a pic of a bush with the dust cover removed that I took out of my old cossie 10 years ago that had failed so you can see what the bush looks like inside

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/08...1/bearings.JPG

steve

Awesome info & pic. Learnt something there :clap: