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Old 25-03-2012 | 12:17 AM
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What year did the Air Conditioning unit in sapphire cosworth come out? Was it in 1992 to 1993?
Does anybody have any pictures of their engine bay with this unit fitted?
Are these rare in these cars now?
Old 25-03-2012 | 08:45 AM
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i put air con in my 2wd cosworth years ago,i took the complete setup out of a ghia.i still have some r12 gas
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Mines a 91 and had a/c
Old 25-03-2012 | 09:32 AM
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I have Cossie made in july 1991 and it had AC. I reckon it's been an option since 1988 as the Sapphire Cosworth came. But its way more common among the later 4x4 models.
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On the Sierra, I believe that the 2000e (started production in June 1989) was one of the first models to have the a/c fitted.
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I was speaking to a person recently about the air conditioning unit.

This is the story he told me and it starts as follows:

Back along time ago, this person owned a 92 sapphire cosworth car with air conditioning fitted. I am told that this unit is fitted on the passenger side area. This owner rang a ford dealer one day and he was looking for a set of new springs for the front of the car. This Ford storeman asked him if it had air conditioning fitted. Owner said there was. The Ford storesman told the owner that because of air conditioning unit fitted, the passenger side spring would be a stronger type spring compared to the drivers side spring.

Is that correct about the 2 front springs?
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Mine is a k reg 4x4 and I have air con I'll try and get a pic for you mate

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Originally Posted by maxturbo
I was speaking to a person recently about the air conditioning unit.

This is the story he told me and it starts as follows:

Back along time ago, this person owned a 92 sapphire cosworth car with air conditioning fitted. I am told that this unit is fitted on the passenger side area. This owner rang a ford dealer one day and he was looking for a set of new springs for the front of the car. This Ford storeman asked him if it had air conditioning fitted. Owner said there was. The Ford storesman told the owner that because of air conditioning unit fitted, the passenger side spring would be a stronger type spring compared to the drivers side spring.

Is that correct about the 2 front springs?
Yes and no. On normal models, there is a different spring fitted if you have a/c installed, but most 4x4 and Cosworth 4x4 models list a different spring (different height) anyway.
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It became a factory option from the mk2 sierra and saff onwards, so from early 1987, but before that it was a dealer fit kit of parts only, supplied by ford and fitted either by the dealers workshop during the pdi or a company called air conditioning services on behalf of the dealer before the car went to the first owner.

The factory option didnt get specced much in the uk, but was more popular in europe.

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Originally Posted by mattman1234
i put air con in my 2wd cosworth years ago,i took the complete setup out of a ghia.i still have some r12 gas
Hi by the way did you have the wiring of this I'd like to fit air co in mine!
Thanks
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if i put a/c in my p100, i reckon i would freeze. lol
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Originally Posted by iansoutham
On the Sierra, I believe that the 2000e (started production in June 1989) was one of the first models to have the a/c fitted.
This is correct!
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Originally Posted by escort_sport
Hi by the way did you have the wiring of this I'd like to fit air co in mine!
Thanks
Antonio
By the wiring i mean the electrical diagram couldn't find the air co electrical part in haynes, i possibly i've found one but don't really know how to "connect" it to battery :P
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Originally Posted by PAUL S
It became a factory option from the mk2 sierra and saff onwards, so from early 1987, but before that it was a dealer fit kit of parts only, supplied by ford and fitted either by the dealers workshop during the pdi or a company called air conditioning services on behalf of the dealer before the car went to the first owner.

The factory option didnt get specced much in the uk, but was more popular in europe.
Was the aircon on early 2.8 XR4x4s only dealer fit? I always presumed it was factory
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Mines a 93 on a K plate and has air con
Only pic I can find

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only 2000e's and cossies had it from late 89 to 91 and from then on some top spec sierra's had it as an option
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Only facelift cosworth had it as a factory option. Non facelifts can't have it factory fitted as the power steering pump is mounted under the inlet where the aircon would go. I've seen some aftermarket kits about, but they are totally different.
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My 89 2wd had aircon fitted by the dealer.

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Mine has a/c it's a1992 never Checked if it works tho
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I took my air con system off.Im sure it was an aftermaket system too cause the pipes were in different places compared to standard saffs.
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Default Air Con on Sapphire Cosworth 4x4

Originally Posted by jason_nike
Mines a 93 on a K plate and has air con
Only pic I can find

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Hi. Did the car cut to the chest to install the vaporetto of air con ?
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Originally Posted by Aggelos Aggeli
Hi. Did the car cut to the chest to install the vaporetto of air con ?
FWIW, yea, you have to cut the bulkhead abs weld in the bigger air con bulkhead. Some good pics and story here:

https://passionford.com/forum/ford-s...o-fitting.html
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I’m after a wiring schematic for how the system is wired up eg

-The electrics have connections into the ECU to cut the power to the pump (clutch) on full throttle
- The hot /cold /position slider has a micro switch to only power the air con when both sliders are fully down
- There’s a led on the blower switch which lights up when air con is on


if anyone has a schematic showing this that they could share please, it’d be appreciated!
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can someone advise how the belt should go around and how long they should be? The car did not have auxiliary belts in place when I bought the car
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