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daz1968 09-02-2012 08:47 PM

4wd plenum
 
Anyone have an idea as to the level a 2wd plenum becomes restrictive and it's worth changing to the 4wd one. Also I think the small turbo escos one is the best but think it needs a bit of work to get it fitted, my car is planning on being stage 3 at some point and wondered if it was worth the expense to fit one

Thanks

Eigdoog 09-02-2012 11:05 PM

Go for it! why not add a spacer while its all off?

4 wd are better so ive been told, why would of ford changed them if they are any worse?

cossie4i+ 11-02-2012 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by daz1968 (Post 5801810)
Anyone have an idea as to the level a 2wd plenum becomes restrictive and it's worth changing to the 4wd one. Also I think the small turbo escos one is the best but think it needs a bit of work to get it fitted, my car is planning on being stage 3 at some point and wondered if it was worth the expense to fit one

Thanks

I have a ST Escos one for sale which was modified by Turbosystems for the ACT Sensor and a couple of extra vacum take offs

Steve

funkyboozer 13-02-2012 09:56 AM

From R&B Motorsport:
The OE inlet manifolds are limited to the following bhp (in the main due to the restrictive elbow NOT the throttle body, which will comfortably flow 650+bhp), 2wd = 430bhp 4x4 = 450bhp EECIV = 500bhp.

R4N SS 21-02-2012 02:09 PM

why not just mod the restrictive elbow and then add a spacer plate ;) thats what ive done as not really worth all the extra expense some of the manifolds command

Yura 21-02-2012 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by R4N S S (Post 5814460)
why not just mod the restrictive elbow

Do you mean to weld some material to the elbow and to port it inside?

R4N SS 21-02-2012 02:58 PM

yes, you cut out the the restrictive bit of the elbow.

Below is a pic i found from Google - not mine as mine is a bit neater but it gives you an idea of what is needed ;) Add in a 14mm spacer and the inlet should be good enough to flow well over 500bhp

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...3-1376_IMG.jpg

nixon_2wd 21-02-2012 03:41 PM

Dont get a spacer as they only do things worse. You want to lead the air behind the trumpets as it is here the trumpets suck from. The spacer only makes the situation worse, and it makes the engine less responsive as you get more plenumvolume.

I dont think the marginal gain of peak hp using the spacer is worth the price, modify your inlet like mine, or get a proper Hart one if you want to go bigger. The responsive gain on the modified however is HUGE.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...012/IMG110.jpg

Yura 21-02-2012 05:00 PM

nixon, is this your plenum at the photo? Do you have the picture inside plenum?

DAN400 21-02-2012 05:34 PM

if its only going to be stage 3 , i would nt bother changing tbh

nixon_2wd 21-02-2012 05:36 PM

yes that is my plenum, here you go.

modified 4x4:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...worth/mail.jpg

std 2wd rubbish:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...rth/IMG111.jpg

daz1968 21-02-2012 07:55 PM

Sounds like its not worth me changing as not planning to exceed stage 3 spec, thanks for info though makes good reading

Toe Knee 21-02-2012 10:20 PM

Been advised the same, unless your going for a bigger turbo than a t34 a spacer isn't really worth it....

bad boy rs 22-02-2012 09:02 AM

Ive got a reyland 14mm spacer on a 4x4 inlet, not sure on how much i gained but it produced 410 lb/ft, imo its worth fitting one as theres definatly a gain in there somewhere. Cheap mod too

edited

Unless of course your going to loose responce on the 34

R4N SS 22-02-2012 10:13 AM

nixon - thats how mine is modded too :top:

but ive also added a 14mm spacer as want more power at the top end.

I had a std 2wd plenum on my old car running a harvey gibbs 400bhp/lbft engine


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